That looks awesome. Whoever is making those maps is great! I cant' wait to find out what battle it is. The suspense is killing me...Is General N. O. Body in this OOB, he is my favorite General of the war. I cant' seem to find him in Ezra J. Warner's books though. The whole team gets a gold star for the effort.

That latest screenshot is a beaut. Looking very good.

Wow!. My fiend Allan says there's at least a 150,000 rebs hiding in those woods.

George

Great pic, Matt! Stunning image! Does this mean we might be able to indicate a specific start time (e.g., pre-dawn engagements) in the sandbox or MP options?

Michigander wrote:


Indeed. I've been playing Norb's games for almost ten years. Awesome has not been a victim of perfection to me. This is a quest achieved by smaller improvements by these fine folks. I'm just happily enjoying the ride.

Alrighty, another Antietam-style pre-dawn attack.

...unless its the evening/night.

Here is my guess.

Pic 2 Snodgrass house on Snodgrass Hill.

Pic 3 Horseshoe Ridge

Pic 4 Cleburne's night attack in Winfrey Field


I have ruled out Wilderness.

I don't think it is Shilo.

I'm sticking with Chickamauga. If it is, it is a great battle. Lots of fighting over difficult terrain.

It's odd because Bill F said it was Chickamauga a month ago and since then NSD have said no-one has guessed it yet

my gut is telling me Wilderness. The shot up trees in the one pic would suggest fighting has already happened on the ground. And that night time pic is Gordons evening assault on the union right.

I have been going through my books to try to find where I could place the pictures at which battle. I don't think it is the Wilderness because the building in the picts don't look like anything that I have seen in the Wilderness battlefield. I thought the farm might be widow Tapps, but I don't think so anymore. Most wilderness structures are two story with large rock fireplaces. The building in the pictures resemble more simpler western styles. The pictures look to be taken in the spring where Chickamauga was fought in September.

Shilo is still a possibility or maybe even the 7 days.


If you look at pic number 4 you will see on the right side of the picture and at the tree line a two story structure with a chimney.

Shiloh is the safe bet. The cabin syles, the burning trees, springtime.

Most of the fields look a little too large for Shiloh, but who knows?

Plus Norb has suggested doing Shiloh ever since TC2M.

See the Shiloh Animated Map for more information about the battle.

Now that people are really narrowing it down. I might just throw out the possibility of Pea Ridge. Though if I had to put money on it, i'd also say Shiloh.

I believe the answer can be found in this new picture. Can anyone identify which state flag that federal unit is carrying? Kind of looks like Wisconsin or Minnesota.

(Also you will notice that the rebs are carrying The Army of Northern Virginia Battle flag.

Red Bugler is already doing a Pea Ridge (from my understanding)that will be released when it is done (he is the one more able to post about this).

I cannot make out the rebel flag. You must eyes of an eagle.


Then of course the flags mod might not be ready and included in the testing of the expansion or, of course, units of the ANV did fight at Chickamauga.

At the time of Shilo, what was the southern battle flag of use?

For the most part at Shiloh they had the original Stars and Bars. Might see a few other varying types. The Hardee corps flag (blue with a white circle) was flown for the first time at Shiloh, and I believe that the red cross of Polks corps, was also flown at Shiloh.

Michigander wrote:


Bragg's Corps (troops from Pensacola and Louisiana) had the Cassidy Flag that had 12 6 point stars. Flags were square or rectangle St. Andrews Cross.

Polks' Corps (The troops mainly from the Columbus garrison) carried the Polk Flag or Cross

Hardee's Corps (Troops from the Bowling Green defenses) carried the Blue Hardee/Cleburne Flag with a white moon.

All other troops that were not previously under these comanders and were rushed to Corinth, carried 1st National flags of various state distinction.
I already know this and was not required to for this expansion.

Young Napoleon wrote:


Well, I think this is pretty funny.


Maybe it is just one of McClellans tactics that when any force is meet, whether it be a regiment or an army, bring up the siege guns and get me one or two extra corps. We will have this war won in a hundred years or so and with fewer casualties.

2nd Texas Infantry wrote:

HAH, that was amusing!

Hey, excellent job on the second picture showing the ground elevations, are you doing this by editing the height by hand or using the other method?

davinci

Davinci wrote:


I have been using the best USGS topographical maps available and matching the contours by hand. I have found it is the only way to capture the differences in height accurately and detailed enough. Using the method of extracting the data by a dem file loses too much fine detail. We have been very happy with the results compared to the real world terrain.

New screenshot posted in original post.

Little Powell wrote:

I like the color of the trees in the first picture that you posted, the last picture seems to be moving the trees back towards the color of the default trees which appears too neon-green.

But, I'll also add that the trees here in Tennessee had that same-neon-green-color several months ago!

The creek-banks and the ground terrain are looking extremely good, so excellent work there!

davinci

Big D,
You know I am not going to let my trees look out of hand. The trees are bright green for spring(ish). They are reproductions or similar to the photos from the battlefield at the time of the battle. This will be a very visual accurate map pack with actual renderings from the battlefield. I had to make some 30+ new terrain sprites and 8 or so new splats. I cant wait for you guys to see it up close and real soon, I might add. Jaws will drop. A completely new feel to an already great game. The scenarios are killer! The maps are stunning, and the whole thing will be a barn burner of a release for all.
-2nd_TX

2nd Texas Infantry wrote:

Hey, 2nd_TX - so how is everything going!

Understandable - that's why I mentioned that the trees down here were of a similar-shade just a few months ago.

That ground terrain is really looking good, good idea about shading the ground between the different elevations.

So, are you and Little Powell working on the same map, or doing different maps of the same battlefield?

davinci

The last pic. Picture 5 is showing the Chancellorsville house from Hazel Grove. It is the battle of Chancellorsville.






The more that I look at it. it appears to me that there are too many buildings around that prominent structure to be Chancellorsville house. It must be a town and if a town I have no idea, maybe Savages Station? Again guessing.

Chancellorsville would be great. Also will the Red River Campaign maps come out with this expansion?

Another terrific screenie. Really impressive in terms of terrain and overall look. Must've been a ball-breaker to create.

Will there be some 5-mile maps with this expansion, or 2.5 mile ones?

All of the new maps are 5 mile maps.

-Jim

JmCraz8 wrote:


No the Red River maps will not be included but will be released. I am working on them soon. The 4 Red River maps that I made will be part of a 7 map free mod including Pea Ridge, Prairie Grove, and Wilson's Creek. Perhaps I will post some pics soon to show off Pea Ridge and Prairie Grove and the enhanced RRC maps. It will be a while before they can be released. Thank you for your interests.

Davinci wrote:


Little Powell made the fantastic heightfields. I did all the art and layout and placements. Lou Raider created the objects.

NY Cavalry wrote:


I think you are close Harmon, but no cigar as you are only half-right as this is a trick question.
My guess is that we are getting two-for-one special on this release.

It is Chancellorsville, but they are also releasing Fredericksburg as well.
The available maps will primarily cover the Battle of Chancellorsville but will also cover both the the 1st and 2nd "Battles" of Fredericksburg as the May 3rd battles also occured on Mayre's Heights.

So Pea Ridge, Fredericksburg, Red River Campaign, and Chancellorsville sounds good, can't wait. Did you add the few confederate Indian regiments in the battle of pea ridge OOB?