Suddenly, "orders" submenu is stuck. Can't do anything with units.

[gumby7]

Can you get the bug without any mods loaded?

When I bought this game I immediately installed the toolbar mod and got the bug. I completely reinstalled the game and am now getting the bug with vanilla 1.103.

[gumby7]

This looks a lot like the bug I had a few months ago with Little Powell's A.P. Hill mod (i.e., all units, including 'yourself' switches to AI control and all I could get was the courier screen, but couldn't do anything with it) after 10 minutes or so into the scenario. I finally got it fixed by going back to a previous version of the game. It seems to have had something to do with a carryover glitch or whatnot.

Have you tried any of the other scenarios, or updated the game recently?

Ive been getting this with 1.103. Considering that came out in November it seems to line up with your story. I'll install 1.102 and see if I still have the problem.

[gumby7]

When I loaded the game, the bug had already happened. I was a regimental commander at the start.

I'm really surprised. I thought I noticed it instantly. Maybe it happened and then I only witnessed the bug when I selected a new unit a while after the bug occurred.

I just tried again to get a save and played through the entire brigade tutorial without a hitch. I have played that tutorial, others, and the first scenario and never made it past ~15 minutes. The only thing I did differently was changing the auto save from 1 min to 2 min before starting the tutorial. I also used every button and tool I could think of trying to cause the bug.

I'm at a loss as to whats causing this. Tomorrow, I'll switch to 1.102 and play some scenarios and see if it happens.

[Little Powell]

When I loaded the game, the bug had already happened. I was a regimental commander at the start.

I'm really surprised. I thought I noticed it instantly. Maybe it happened and then I only witnessed the bug when I selected a new unit a while after the bug occurred.

I just tried again to get a save and played through the entire brigade tutorial without a hitch. I have played that tutorial, others, and the first scenario and never made it past ~15 minutes. The only thing I did differently was changing the auto save from 1 min to 2 min before starting the tutorial. I also used every button and tool I could think of trying to cause the bug.

I'm at a loss as to whats causing this. Tomorrow, I'll switch to 1.102 and play some scenarios and see if it happens.

Thanks for all of your help trying to track this down. You don't have to switch back to the old version because that one will never be released again. The concern is if it happens with 1.103. Maybe it does have something to do with the autosave. I would try changing it back to 1 minute to see if it ever happens again.

Thanks again!

[gumby7]

I switched back to 1 min autosave and got the bug at about 20 min in. I quit immediately so if this save starts with the bug for you than the save must be involved (although I know nothing about programming). Also important, I got this bug playing with 15 min autosave a couple days ago as well.

Every test I'm doing is on the brigade combat tutorial. Ive gotten the bug on the first scenario as well.

[Little Powell]

I switched back to 1 min autosave and got the bug at about 20 min in. I quit immediately so if this save starts with the bug for you than the save must be involved (although I know nothing about programming). Also important, I got this bug playing with 15 min autosave a couple days ago as well.

Every test I'm doing is on the brigade combat tutorial. Ive gotten the bug on the first scenario as well.

Thanks Gumby7. I'll take a look at the save. Hopefully this one will help Norb track it down.

[Little Powell]

I switched back to 1 min autosave and got the bug at about 20 min in. I quit immediately so if this save starts with the bug for you than the save must be involved (although I know nothing about programming). Also important, I got this bug playing with 15 min autosave a couple days ago as well.

Every test I'm doing is on the brigade combat tutorial. Ive gotten the bug on the first scenario as well.

So what am I looking for here? The save loads and I have control of Meredeth. When does it usually crap out? And when it does, will I lose control of everyone, or certain units? Thanks.

[gumby7]

The toolbar will get stuck on the courier page that I attached a pic of on page 1. You will be able to select your units and look at their information but cant give them orders and they seem to be under AI control. Basically selecting the units under your command (including selecting your character) becomes like selecting a friendly unit that isn't under your command when game is working. When you select "go to me" it will still go to your character. Its always taken 10-20 minutes to occur and if this save doesn't start with the bug then it happened in the game I was playing within a minute of that save.

Ive attached my settings file if that would be helpful for you to duplicate the situation. On this tutorial specifically I remember (99% sure, its been a week) that another union officer becomes controllable after this bug occurs. If you find this bug in the save, cycle through the union officers to find him.

I am positive that there is no specific action that triggers this. I've pressed every button and order, used every menu, and selected every unit on the map (friend and foe) and it still always happens in that 10-20 min window at random. It has to be something under the hood. Also, I cant be positive if the toolbar gets stuck when I select a new unit or if it just happens while the toolbar stays on the same unit (10-20 min is a long time to play and stare at the toolbar).

Tomorrow, I'll switch back to 2 min autosave (which worked fine as opposed to 1 min and 15 min which don't) and see if I can play the 1st scenario bug free.

Edit: now that I think about it, I don't think the toolbar being stuck on courier is really relevant because its just a symptom of your units no longer being under your command. like I said, it happens with both the vanilla and blue and gray mod toolbars.

[Little Powell]

The toolbar will get stuck on the courier page that I attached a pic of on page 1. You will be able to select your units and look at their information but cant give them orders and they seem to be under AI control. Basically selecting the units under your command (including selecting your character) becomes like selecting a friendly unit that isn't under your command when game is working. When you select "go to me" it will still go to your character. Its always taken 10-20 minutes to occur and if this save doesn't start with the bug then it happened in the game I was playing within a minute of that save.

Ive attached my settings file if that would be helpful for you to duplicate the situation. On this tutorial specifically I remember (99% sure, its been a week) that another union officer becomes controllable after this bug occurs. If you find this bug in the save, cycle through the union officers to find him.

I am positive that there is no specific action that triggers this. I've pressed every button and order, used every menu, and selected every unit on the map (friend and foe) and it still always happens in that 10-20 min window at random. It has to be something under the hood. Also, I cant be positive if the toolbar gets stuck when I select a new unit or if it just happens while the toolbar stays on the same unit (10-20 min is a long time to play and stare at the toolbar).

Tomorrow, I'll switch back to 2 min autosave (which worked fine as opposed to 1 min and 15 min which don't) and see if I can play the 1st scenario bug free.

Edit: now that I think about it, I don't think the toolbar being stuck on courier is really relevant because its just a symptom of your units no longer being under your command. like I said, it happens with both the vanilla and blue and gray mod toolbars.

Thanks. I loaded the save, and played out the battle until the end with no issues. I kept control of Cutler the whole time.

What happens when you load the same save? Do you get the problem? Also I would re-name it or it will get overwritten next time autosave kicks in.

[gumby7]

I loaded the save and got the bug in a couple minutes. I saved after the bug occurred and when I loaded that save I started as the commander of the 19th Indiana in a different brigade. No officer character or anything. Just controlling that one regiment. When I clicked "go to me" it took me to the 19th Indiana. When the bug occurs "go to me" takes me to my original character (Cutler) but I have no control. I'll reload the original autosave and see if I control the 19th Indiana immediately after the bug occurs.

Ive attached the before auto save and the after manual save.