battalions marching through each other

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We did have the cav group together in regiment, but the units were just too big too manoeuvre and command effectively on the battlefield. So we settled on the squadron which was a more capable unit. Many charges and attacks were done so in squadron formations, we appreciate that. Napoleon said 'battalion is to infantry as squadron is to cavalry'. That was our doctrine.
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We did have the cav group together in regiment, but the units were just too big too manoeuvre and command effectively on the battlefield. So we settled on the squadron which was a more capable unit. Many charges and attacks were done so in squadron formations, we appreciate that. Napoleon said 'battalion is to infantry as squadron is to cavalry'. That was our doctrine.
I would say that cumbersome would be more historically accurate than squadrons running all over the place making no sense.
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I lobby to remove those that don't see the greatness in this game before the faults.
BTW The Wargamer suks nowadays. :) They still talkin bout you Norb. Same ole fools and retards like Son of Montfort and Jarhead and most especially Gusington.
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If you want cavalry in regiments as the fighting level, you are free to mod an OOB to make it that way.

-Jim
"My God, if we've not got a cool brain and a big one too, to manage this affair, the nation is ruined forever." Unknown private, 14th Vermont, 2 July 1863
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I am getting use to it. Lots of squads running around but it will work out. Feedback should be looked at as people with passion for the game wanting to help and not trolled or taken to be hostile. There are a lot of people around with a lot of knowledge on Napoleonic combat(as much as we can have for being removed from the time). I try to draw all my data from the people who were there.

Please don't take my remarks as telling you what to do just offering suggestions for my love of the game and the period.
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Regarding cav. In the Napoleonic era they should be at the Regimental level and give the user the option to separate into squadrons. More like the infantry battalions and how they split. Cav in this period normally engaged with the entire regiment either in contact or direct support and the way it is set up now the cav just does not perform correct and has no Napoleonic feel to them. Lots of time the Heavy cav was thrown in at Brigade strength that is how they could break a square.
Actually no, the 3 "base units" of the napoleoinc wars were battalion, squadron and battery.

Most cav regiments were to large, 500-1800 troopers.

2-4 squadrons usually fought to gather. Som times single squadrons.

Yes some times whole regiment did chrage to gather. But still not the main units.

Heavy cav more then light would fight in close to full regiments. (Mostly because they wee held in reserve to close to the rest of the regiment, and generally heavy cav regiments were smaller then light)

Russians light cav regiments were HUGE about 1800 at full strength( some times notecibly bigger when over strength)

They devided regiments into two battalions each of 5 squadrons. But even battalions were ofte split further.

Also whem you read cav battles and tactics, it usualy is based on 2 or 4 squadrons working in support.

A few typical/generic examples

1. One squadron attacks, gets beaten back, second squadron comes in and fights, letting first squadron collect it self and get in fighting shape.

2. One squadron attacks and pins the enemy, second flanks and attacks side or rear.

This can of course be scaled up, with many thousand cavalry troopers, but in that huge battle would be mini battles, of 2-4 squadrons
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Gunfreak, I wonder if you read others posts before responding?
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Gunfreak, I wonder if you read others posts before responding?
Yes, the developers learned what generals learned in the early 1700s.


You made is sound like cav regiments were like infantry battalions, and squadrons like infantry skirmishes.

Which is factually wrong.
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