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OK. This will be lengthy, but I am trying to correctly place each regiment into their proper places during every battle till G-Burg on the east side.

Question #1:
What they heck happened to the 4th Corps? I didn't just disappear. The 1st Division, 4th Corps, was taken during the Antietam Campaign and put with the 6th Corps, but I don't know what happened to the 2nd Division, does anyone?

Question #2:
Where did the old 1st Corps, Army of Virginia, and new 11th Corps, Army of the Potomac, go during the Antietam Campaign? I have found zero information on where it could be found.

Question #3:
Exactly where was the Reserve Grand Division at Fredericksburg? It included the 11th and 12th Corps, under Sigle, but where was it?

Question #4:
What happened to Evan's Independent Brigade, ANV? It seems to have disappeared after Antietam. No idea where it went.

Question #5:
Where did Ransom's Division go? I know it went to North Carolina, but I have no idea where from there. I looked in the Department of NC, but it isn't listed.

Question #6:
A lot of North Carolina regiments from D. H. Hill's division disappeared after Fredericksburg. Where did they go (I assume North Carolina, but why individual regiments, not a brigade)?

If I could get this information, that would be great!
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I'll try my luck at answering these:

Hancock the Superb wrote:
OK. This will be lengthy, but I am trying to correctly place each regiment into their proper places during every battle till G-Burg on the east side.

Question #1:
What they heck happened to the 4th Corps? I didn't just disappear. The 1st Division, 4th Corps, was taken during the Antietam Campaign and put with the 6th Corps, but I don't know what happened to the 2nd Division, does anyone? I looked at oobs in the Book To the Gates of Richmond to look at the 4th Corps and then at the book Landscape Turned Red since after the 7 Days, Antietam was the AOTP next major engagement. I couldn't find any units in the 2nd Division 4th Corps in the muster rolls of Antietam, so I have no idea where they went.

Question #2:
Where did the old 1st Corps, Army of Virginia, and new 11th Corps, Army of the Potomac, go during the Antietam Campaign? I have found zero information on where it could be found.

Question #3:
Exactly where was the Reserve Grand Division at Fredericksburg? It included the 11th and 12th Corps, under Sigle, but where was it? From The Fredericksburg Campaign pg. 443 "A rumor circulated through the Army of the Potomac that Sigel's Reserve Grand Corps had arrived upriver to flank the Confederates while Burnside diverted Lee's attention. (Sigel's forces were en route to the army, but would not arrive at Stafford Court House for several more days)." This was on December 15th, 2 days after the battle; I don't know where they were coming from, but they weren't at the Battle.
Question #4:
What happened to Evan's Independent Brigade, ANV? It seems to have disappeared after Antietam. No idea where it went. I looked up the 17th South Carolina, one of Evans' regiments at Antietam, and found this link http://batsonsm.tripod.com/b/reg17.html; it's not the entire brigade but it may give a clue as to where the brigade was sent.

Question #5:
Where did Ransom's Division go? I know it went to North Carolina, but I have no idea where from there. I looked in the Department of NC, but it isn't listed.

Question #6:
A lot of North Carolina regiments from D. H. Hill's division disappeared after Fredericksburg. Where did they go (I assume North Carolina, but why individual regiments, not a brigade)?

If I could get this information, that would be great!
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Question #4:
What happened to Evan's Independent Brigade, ANV? It seems to have disappeared after Antietam. No idea where it went.

From aotw.org:
Evans Brigade was separated from Longstreet's Army in late 1862 and sent to eastern North Carolina to counter a raid on Kinston and Goldsboro. After this campaign, Evans was tried for intemperance during the Battle of Kinston but was acquitted. The brigade was sent to Charleston to recruit additional men, but was almost immediately sent to Mississippi to assist in the attempt to rescue Vicksburg. Upon the brigade's return to Charleston in the fall of 1863, Evans quarreled with his superior and was removed from command and tried for insubordination. He was acquitted but by this time Beauregard had lost confidence in him and refused to return him to command until the late spring of 1864. Evans was severly injured in a buggy accident in Charleston while preparing his brigade to leave to join the Petersburg Campaign. His brigade want north without him and subsequently suffered large losses when blown up at the Battle of the Crater
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Question #2:
Where did the old 1st Corps, Army of Virginia, and new 11th Corps, Army of the Potomac, go during the Antietam Campaign? I have found zero information on where it could be found.

By General Orders No. 129, September 12, 1862, its designation was changed to that of the Eleventh, (from 1st Corps, AoV) a necessary change, as McDowell's command had resumed its original title of the First Army Corps. During General McClellan's Maryland campaign, and during the fall of 1862, the Eleventh Corps remained in Northern Virginia, in front of Washington, occupying various important outposts in the vicinity of Centreville.
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Thanks so far for the information recieved on Questions 2 adn 4, 7th Wisconsin. And thank you for your good information on Question 3, Armchair General. I would still like info on Questions 1, 5, and 6, that would be great!
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Question #1:
What they heck happened to the 4th Corps? I didn't just disappear. The 1st Division, 4th Corps, was taken during the Antietam Campaign and put with the 6th Corps, but I don't know what happened to the 2nd Division, does anyone?

4th Corps originally consisted of divisions of Couch, Smith, and Casey. On May 18, 1862 Smith's division joined 6th Corps. After the Seven Days battles, Couch's division joined 6th Corps. The Second division remained on the Pennisula and later to Suffolk, Va. The Fourth Corps was officially discontinued in August, 1862. The Second division later ended up with the 18th Corps.
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7th Wisconsin wrote:
Question #1:
What they heck happened to the 4th Corps? I didn't just disappear. The 1st Division, 4th Corps, was taken during the Antietam Campaign and put with the 6th Corps, but I don't know what happened to the 2nd Division, does anyone?

4th Corps originally consisted of divisions of Couch, Smith, and Casey. On May 18, 1862 Smith's division joined 6th Corps. After the Seven Days battles, Couch's division joined 6th Corps. The Second division remained on the Pennisula and later to Suffolk, Va. The Fourth Corps was officially discontinued in August, 1862. The Second division later ended up with the 18th Corps.
My hometown regiment, the 104th Pennsylvania, was in that division. I am not sure if the brigades that were in Peck's Division on the penninsula stayed together. I know the 101st and 103rd PA were captured in mass at Plymouth later in the war and lost a lot of men at Andersonville. Here is the organizational history of the 104th that may give some insight:

Organization:
Organized at Doylestown September 20 to October 16, 1861.
Left State for Washington, D.C., November 6, 1861.
Attached to Casey's Division to March, 1862.
1st Brigade, 3rd Division, 4th Army Corps, Army Potomac, to June. 1862.
1st Brigade, 2nd Division, 4th Army Corps, to December, 1862.
Naglee's Brigade, Dept. of North Carolina, to January, 1863.
2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, 18th Army Corps, Dept. of North Carolina, to February, 1863.
2nd Brigade, 1st Division, 18th Army Corps, Dept. of the South, to April, 1863.
District of Beaufort, S.C., 10th Army Corps, to July, 1863.
2nd Brigade, 1st Division, 10th Army Corps, Dept. South, July, 1863.
Davis' Brigade, Folly Island, S.C., 10th Corps, to August, 1863.
5th Brigade, Morris Island, S.C., 10th Corps, to November, 1863.
2nd Brigade, Morris Island, S.C., 10th Corps, to April, 1864.
District of Hilton Head, S.C., Dept. South, to June, 1864.
Morris Island, Northern District, Dept. South, to July, 1864.
District of Florida, Dept. South, to August, 1864.
Defences of Washington, 22nd Corps, South of the Potomac, to September, 1864.
Train Guard, Army Shenandoah, Middle Military Division, to November, 1864.
1st Brigade, Defences Bermuda Hundred, Va., Dept. Virginia and North Carolina, to April, 1865.
Norfolk and Portsmouth, Va., Dept. Virginia, to August, 1865

Service:

Duty in the Defences of Washington till March, 1862.
Advance on Manassas, Va., March 10-15.
Moved to the Peninsula March 28.
Siege of Yorktown April 5-May 4.
Battle of Williamsburg May 5.
Operations about Bottom's Bridge May 20-23.
Reconnaissance to Seven Pines May 24-27.
Skirmishes at Seven Pines, Savage Station and Chickahominy May 24.
Battle of Fair Oaks or Seven Pines May 31-June 1.
Seven days before Richmond June 25-July 1.
Bottom's Bridge June 28-29.
White Oak Swamp June 30.
Malvern Hill July 1.
At Harrison's Landing till August 15.
Moved to Yorktown August 16-23, and duty there till December 28.
Gloucester Point November 16.
Expedition to Matthews County December 11-15.
Moved to Morehead City, N. C., December 28-January 1, 1863,
thence to Port Royal Harbor, S.C., January 28-31.
Moved to St. Helena Island, S.C., February 10, and duty there till April 4.
Expedition against Charleston, S. C, April 4-12.
Duty at Beaufort, S.C., till July.
Expedition to James Island, S.C., July 9-16.
Battle of Secessionville. James Island, July 16.
Moved to Folly and Morris Island, S.C., July 16-18.
Assault on Fort Wagner, Morris Island, July 18.
Siege of Fort Wagner July 18-September 7, and operations against
Fort Sumter and Charleston from Morris and Folly Islands till June, 1864.
Reconnaissance to Dafuskie Island May 11, 1864.
Expedition to John's Island July 2-10.
Operations against Battery Pringle July 4-9.
Boudren's Causeway, James Island, July 9.
At Hilton Head, S. C., till July and in Florida till August.
Ordered to Washington, D.C., and duty in the Defences south of the Potomac to September.
Moved to Harper's Ferry, W. Va., and
duty escorting trains to Sheridan's army till November.
Moved to Bermuda Hundred, Va., November 22.
Siege operations against Petersburg and Richmond December, 1864. to April, 1865.
Fall of Petersburg April 2.
Duty there till April 20.
Moved to Norfolk, Va., April 20-24, and duty there till August.
Mustered out August 25, 1865.

Losses:

Regiment lost during service:
2 Officers and 68 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and
115 Enlisted men by disease.
Total 185.

Source: Dyer, Frederick H. A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion Compiled and Arranged from Official Records of the Federal and Confederate Armies, Reports of he Adjutant Generals of the Several States, the Army Registers, and Other Reliable Documents and Sources, Des Moines, Iowa: The Dyer Publishing Company, 1908
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Thanks for the information on Question number 1, both of you. Where do you find all this information? I've searched many OOBs and haven't found anything of them.
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Google is a wonderful place! And I actually enjoy researching things like this if I have the time.
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