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Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:54 pm
by Hancock the Superb
That took me 2 minutes to read, but I agree with everything.

In addition, cannons should be able to be blown up.
Only engineers construct breastworks.
Real orders, with you able to type in your orders to the person and the person follows your orders. So lets say that you want a subordinate unit to march to blah,blah, and they will deploy in the woods, or in a defensive position and not do any attacks. Defend the position to the last.
Then, we can take out that TC button that I nortorouly use for every single brigade in every single battle.

Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:57 am
by Chamberlain
ironsight,

You got some really good things there !!!

;) ;)

Hope it isn't to late to maybe incorporate some of them into the game !!!!

or, maybe some of them are already in the game ;) ;)

Chamberlain

Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:53 am
by ironsight
Chamberlain wrote:
or, maybe some of them are already in the game
I hope so! :laugh:
Hancock the Superb wrote:
Then, we can take out that TC button that I nortorouly use for every single brigade in every single battle.
TC every Brigade!! I just about end up TC/unTC'ng the majority of regiments at one time or another during the course of a battle. Usually its the only way to get regiments to flank properly and better yet get a regiment behind one of those dam gigantic usually stubborn yankee regiments. One or two regiments face to face, two flanking both sides and one in the back all double time'd and then very shortly...ha ha...presto...look at em SKEEDADDLE!!:laugh: :laugh:
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Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:57 pm
by JC Edwards
Run Forrest!!! Run!!! :lol: :lol:

Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:46 pm
by ironsight
IMHO, Forrest should of ended up The Commanding Confederate General in the West. Couldn't of done any worse than Bragg! Oh well,the North had their share of generalship mistakes too!
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Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:11 am
by Hancock the Superb
JC Edwards wrote:
Run Forrest!!! Run!!! :lol: :lol:
Hey. That's my line.

No one can say RUN FOREST RUN without refering to me.

(I run, obviously).

Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:36 am
by norb
ironsight wrote:
TC every Brigade!! I just about end up TC/unTC'ng the majority of regiments at one time or another during the course of a battle. Usually its the only way to get regiments to flank properly and better yet get a regiment behind one of those dam gigantic usually stubborn yankee regiments. One or two regiments face to face, two flanking both sides and one in the back all double time'd and then very shortly...ha ha...presto...look at em SKEEDADDLE!!:laugh: :laugh:
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We hope to get in as much as possible, but our feature list is pretty much set at this point. We want to get something out and we can't let a moving target get in our way. We will do a major feature revision for the first patch/expansion. At that point after people have played with the new engine, we can look to new features. This helps in that people will be looking to do improvements to our engine rather than the old one.

Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:01 am
by ironsight
Norb,
i don't think anyone here realistically expects you all to try and cram every last wish list item in the new game especially now at the 11th hour... because as you indicated, the game would be in perpetual development.
Hopefully though, some of the wishfull stuff all of us submitted would be at least considered and put in the pipeline for future releases.

Maybe when the smoke settles after the first release and realizing everything can't be added to the next release or patch, possibly NSD could present us with a list of items which you deem feasible to add or change. We all could then vote for the top critical items in that list in descending order. Sort of like separating the chaff from the wheat!!

I'm sure you don't want the 'inmantes running the asylum' :P but this might be the most practical and fairest democratic way of doing it. Don't want to speak for other members here, but i think a lot of us feel like unofficial members of the NSD team primarily because we get to inject input into development...something not too many other gaming companies seriously do.
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Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:44 am
by Phantom Captain
ironsight wrote:
IMHO, Forrest should of ended up The Commanding Confederate General in the West. Couldn't of done any worse than Bragg! Oh well,the North had their share of generalship mistakes too!
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Oh yes they could and did do worse as evidenced by Hood's command at Franklin in '64. Bang up job he did there! :ohmy: I don't even think Bragg would have smashed his army as recklessly as Hood did.

Credit must go to our boys in blue as well though for knowing what was coming and crushing it. :woohoo:

Re:Questions about the new game

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:35 pm
by ironsight
Yeah, Hood should also be a candidate for the worst Confederate General in the West Award. Both Hood at Franklin, and Bragg at the last major assault at Murfreesboro gave the order knowing before hand it would result in extremely heavy casualties. Lee also had his share of this, Malvern Hill and Gettysburg come to mind but at least Lee gave many morale-boosting major victories to the ANV.

Perhaps Bragg's biggest blunder (and the War) was to not follow up with his Chicamauga victory which some of his subordinate generals argued for including Longstreet and Forrest. This blunder alone most likely set the chain of events for Sherman's successful Georgia campaign which IMO was the turning point of the war.
And when Johnston was replaced by Hood, instead of presenting resistance to Sherman's Army, Hood hi-taled off to Tennessee only to effectively destroy his Army there once and for all.
The other greatest Western blunder committed by the Confederate High-Command was to allow Grant to conduct a 'carte-blanche' seige on strategic Vicksburg. Vicksburg was the only major obstacle preventing Northern commerce via the Mississippi River. At the time it was some of the Northern Industrialists who needed full access to the Mississippi River that were putting pressure on Lincoln to settle with the South.
Could go on and on with this Monday morning quarter backing but in the final analysis mistakes are mistakes.

Grant finally had the winning strategy during the Union's final invasion of Virginia, under no conditions retreat as previous Union Generals - keep pushing no matter what and wear the Rebs out. Grant after all had the luxury of overwhelming manpower and supplies but so did McClellan during the earlier Peninsula campaign.
Its thought that if one of those previous Union Generals was in charge they would of retreated back to Washington from Grant's disastorous assault at Cold Harbor alone.
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