Supply Wagon Problem!

[Little Powell]

Keep in mind, wagons will always try to follow their division commanders. They also use roads wherever they go which will make it seem like they are just wandering around, but really they are trying to get to their division commander.

The best practice is to just TC them. Put them in a safe place where your troops can go to resupply.

[Davinci]

Whoa, talk about a blast from the past, I almost (i.e.…probably did) forget about those days of complaining about that supply wagon.

But, I think that we are discussing separate issues in regards to the wagons, I was complaining about the enemies supply wagon, not my wagon, or that of an AI ally.

The latest patch did address this problem, and it is somewhat better than it was a year ago, but the issue is still not solved one-hundred-percent .

Basically, I think that the enemy supply-wagons should stay at least five-hundred yards to the rear of the front-line.

There is a setting in the drills file that should address this, but it needs a little bit more adjusting!

davinci

[CoB4thTEXAS]

o.k. I was just wondering if any new fixes were out that I missed, lately cant tell you how many times i've had to move just to get sight to my units because theres 2 or 3 enemy supply wagons in my battle-line and can't see past them. (a shewed A.I. Tactic )

Usually play as brigade commander in a corp size battle, so I have no control over any wagons.

Anyways just checking, and didnt want to start a new thread.


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[Zeke]

You could maybe limit this by removing the supply wagons from the divisions and attaching them solely to the Army commander who generally starts further away from the enemy - instead of having a division attached behind your army commander attach your Armys supply wagon's and maybe a cavalry escort. When your troops need ammo send them to the rear or TC one of the wagons to come up and resupply.

Just an idea

[Davinci]

Zeke – How is everything going!

I don’t think that that would work for the AI due to the fact that if the Supply Wagon is not attached to that particular division the AI will not use it.

In the early days when the game was first released, I could alter the OOB and remove the Divisional Commanders , if memory serves me correctly, but this has been fixed!

Now, if you are talking about troops that are under your command then I would say that this would work.

You will not be able to just click the ammo button, but you can force the troops to re-supply by manually placing them next to the wagons.

davinci

[Jack ONeill]

D,

You could try this - remove the wagons from all the Divisions under your command and place them in a supply train with an officer commanding. I did this a while back for a bit. Yes, you have to manually resupply your men and guns, but it does keep the wagons back out of the way. Makes a nifty target for raiding Cavalry, too.

Zeke! Great to see you! Where've you been?

Jack B)

[Davinci]

Jack – what’s new in your world?

I think that we are discussing separate issues here, I’m what you would call a micro-manager , meaning that I control all of my forces, so that would also mean the supply-wagons.

The original topic was discussing the AI Supply-Wagons [/b] only, not any of my forces.

So, I’m not sure how the AI behaves if anyone is only controlling a part of the army and the AI is controlling another part of the army.

I think that this is what CoB4thTexas was discussing above, only having control of a small part of the army!

My issues were with the enemy-supply-wagons in which as you know I have absolutely zero control of!

But, the latest patch did address some of this, bear in mind that this post is a year old!

davinci

[Jack ONeill]

D,

Roger that. Yes, this is an old post. The AI wagons ARE a pain and yes, the patch did address some of this.
You can put the enemy AI wagons under a seperate officer. I'm goind to try that and see what happens. Not running into it as much as I used to. Might make it a bit of a problem for the enemy to resupply. Bummer for them.

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Jack B)

[Davinci]

Might make it a bit of a problem for the enemy to resupply. Bummer for them.

LOL - all is not fair in Love and War !
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Jack – As posted above, I really don’t think that that is going to work, due to the fact that the enemy regiments will not recognize a supply wagon that is not a part of their division.

It’s been a while since I have altered the csv files, so I’m not exactly sure how many changes that I have made in relation to this problem, but these are the ones that I remember doing…..

1) Added extra ammunition to all regiments to slow down the need to resupply
2) I countered that by giving the battlefield an extra defensive bonus
3) I slowed down the firing rate of all the muskets – this seems to cause the smoke to disappear momentary from the battlefield, and then suddenly everyone fires near the same time in the regiment.
4) I reduced the accuracy of all muskets
5) I added in more mis-fires for the regiments – but this was too slow-down the casualties
6) I gave the Enemy Divisional Commander – cautious settings in the OOB \ Style settings to make them less inclined to advance forward
7) Also – gave the enemy Supply Wagons low settings in the OOB – the previous game you could apply all zeros here – and prevent the wagons from moving \ this no longer works.
8) Added a radius setting in the drills file to keep them from moving too close to an enemy unit \ but this still need to be fixed in a future patch

*** Now – I wonder if I could give the enemy Divisional Commander an Radius in the drills file, to prevent them from moving too close – never tried that !

davinci

[Zeke]

Hi Guys

oh Ive been here!!! Just waiting for the game to open up more which appears to be happening
but I must admit I agree with Davinci the supply wagons are a real pain - my suggestion didnt factor in the the computer AI opponent though - sigh

Increasing the radius of the Div Commander is an interesting idea though