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Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:50 pm
by Little Powell
Think of it this way. If you were playing MP, would you be able to dispatch a courier from another human player?
Understood - but this is Open Play and the game should be designed for both.

So, basically - there is not a setting at this time that will allow for this!

Thanks, for the replies guy's!

davinci
Correct there's no setting, and sorry for the confusion and making it sound more complicated than it actually is. I compared it to MP because even in open play, the game still acts like a real live setting and other commanders are going to think and act independently (sending their own couriers) while any courier that you send will only come from you. I suppose there could be a setting that would have couriers composed by you dispatched from the selected unit, but again that goes against the realism of the game.

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:53 pm
by con20or
im almost 100% sure the three of us aren't talking about the same thing!! I'll try this later myself.

Just to confirm, which character had you selected?

If i understand correctly you are saying that when you are general lee, you order longstreet by couriermenu to move a division, and the courier goes from you(lee) straight to the division commander, not longstreet.

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:59 pm
by Little Powell
If i understand correctly you are saying that when you are general lee, you order longstreet by couriermenu to move a division, and the courier goes from you(lee) straight to the division commander, not longstreet.
Correct. It doesn't matter who you select, any courier message you compose from the courier menu is only going to come from you. Just look at the message info. It's always going to say it's from you, and it's signed by you. That pretty much sums up my point right there. :)

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:01 pm
by con20or
This sounds kind of similar to what i mentioned in this post

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and this one

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The courier system doesn't work right at higher levels for certain orders.

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:02 pm
by con20or
If i understand correctly you are saying that when you are general lee, you order longstreet by couriermenu to move a division, and the courier goes from you(lee) straight to the division commander, not longstreet.
Correct. It doesn't matter who you select, any courier message you compose from the courier menu is only going to come from you. Just look at the message info. It's always going to say it's from you, and it's signed by you. That pretty much sums up my point right there. :)
but your order should go to longstreet, not the division commander, which is what i think davinci is saying?

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:10 pm
by Little Powell
If i understand correctly you are saying that when you are general lee, you order longstreet by couriermenu to move a division, and the courier goes from you(lee) straight to the division commander, not longstreet.
Correct. It doesn't matter who you select, any courier message you compose from the courier menu is only going to come from you. Just look at the message info. It's always going to say it's from you, and it's signed by you. That pretty much sums up my point right there. :)
but your order should go to longstreet, not the division commander, which is what i think davinci is saying?
No because you can't order Longstreet to move a division (sorry should have said that in my initial response). If a Division is going to move it's because you directly ordered it to, or Longstreet moves it on his own.

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:52 pm
by con20or
i have a sudden urge to take a half-day, go home and order couriers around...

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:04 pm
by Marching Thru Georgia
LittlePowell wrote:
No because you can't order Longstreet to move a division (sorry should have said that in my initial response). If a Division is going to move it's because you directly ordered it to, or Longstreet moves it on his own.
LittlePowell is correct. The player can only order troops below him within his chain of command. Those orders flow directly from the player to the subordinate. There are no intermediaries. You may request support from someone not in your chain of command, another corps commander for example, but it is only a request, not an order.

con20or wrote:
but your order should go to longstreet, not the division commander, which is what i think davinci is saying?
Ordering a division to move someplace by giving the order to it's corps commander might be a logical idea, but probably didn't happen often in 19th century warfare where line of sight was very limited. If Lee rode by a division or brigade that was not performing properly, he would order that unit directly. He wouldn't wait for a courier to find Longstreet, wait until Longstreet rode over to see what was happening, and then wait for Longstreet to write an order and send it to the division commander.

Try playing a courier battle in the saddle and you'll see that breaking the chain of command is the only way to proceed. You'll most likely get slaughtered, but it will be instructive. :)

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:23 pm
by Little Powell
Try playing a courier battle in the saddle and you'll see that breaking the chain of command is the only way to proceed. You'll most likely get slaughtered, but it will be instructive.
When I'm not designing or testing or whatever else and I actually have a chance to enjoy the game, that's the only way I play.. Sandbox, Division Level, Couriers only. Very fun yet incredibly challenging.. It's a rush. :evil:

Re: Courier Question?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:25 pm
by Amish John
If you are a division commander and want to give all your brigades the same order, do you have to write the order multiple times? If you do, I guess that's realistic.