Corse and Jenkins

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Are these any use ?
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"Die hard, my men. Die hard the 57th."
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In the official Confederate publication, "Operations of the Army of Northern Virginia", Vol. 2, the battle is described in exquisite detail by the commanding officers at nearly all levels. Included are tables of the regiments & divisions, and even corps, involved. The accompanying tables show the casualties for each unit, broken into killed-missing-wounded, many tables further subdivided into officer & enlisted casualties. While the tables purport to be exact, the maddening thing is that there are no figures for the pre-battle strength of the regiments. The same pattern is repeated for every battle recorded in the book.
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Post by conjotter »

Hi folks.

So is there a Gettysburg scenario(s) available that include the brigades of Corse and Jenkins?

If so, where can it be downloaded?

Always wondered what difference these two strong brigades would have made to the battle.

I think the excellent Richard Berg board game "Terrible Swift Sword" included these units, but that was decades ago.

Thanks.
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Post by garyknowz »

Thanks, Geoff! Yes, the data I was looking for is there. Between that, and the data on Jerkins from May 11th, I can at least hit a ball park figure. Records on Corse still elude me, though.

I'll look for 'Operations of the Army of Northern Virginia' and see if I could adjust them to something closer. Don, did the book also note recruitment and wounded/returned to unit figures?


I'm still curious about why Corse and Jenkins were understrength in the Longstreet Arrives scenario. Anyone?
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I'm still curious about why Corse and Jenkins were understrength in the Longstreet Arrives scenario. Anyone?
It was researched by Larry. Although a 'What If' scenario, it is a historic representative and should be accurate as to number of troops assigned during that CV conflict time period.
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I'm still curious about why Corse and Jenkins were understrength in the Longstreet Arrives scenario. Anyone?
It was researched by Larry. Although a 'What If' scenario, it is a historic representative and should be accurate as to number of troops assigned during that CV conflict time period.
I don't doubt that. But I'm in the process of collecting resources and curious what data was used, because the data I've seen from the Official Records (reference listed above) placed Jenkins strength at 2,267 as of May 11th 1963. I'm hoping the Larry's sources might give me better estimation of Jenkin's and Corse's relative strength at the Battle of Gettysburg.
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