Removed the ability for cavalry to capture and bring enemy guns into action.
Can you let us know what happens post-patch when cavalry charge guns? Do the guns just surrender or something else? Thanks.
I'm curious why this is a cavalry-only change. Why didn't you implement it for infantry as well, since infantry in the Nap wars never crewed captured guns.
Last edited by Saddletank on Fri May 06, 2016 9:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
HITS & Couriers - a different and realistic way to play SoW MP.
Would it be possible to have the guns 'abandoned' (Gun with no artillerymen sprites)? Then, if the enemy moves away from the battery ddd yards for ttt minutes, and friendly units are within ddd yards for ttt minutes, have the guns randomly re-taken based on Morale/Experience, maybe? If at the end of the battle the guns are still 'abandoned' they can be considered captured by the winner.
If you are correcting minor historical errors in the next patch you might want to amend the name of a French Cavalry Brigade Commander in Chastel's Division of Exelmans Corps. He appears as Breton but should be Berton.
If you are correcting minor historical errors in the next patch you might want to amend the name of a French Cavalry Brigade Commander in Chastel's Division of Exelmans Corps. He appears as Breton but should be Berton.
Regards
Mike
Too late for this patch but I'll flag it for the guys to look into for the next, thanks for the report.
Hi Mitra
Thank you for your reply. I had found several references to him as Berton when researching how close Grouchy's forces were when he might have marched to the sound of the guns at Waterloo. The answer to that by the way was that Exelmans had a brigade of cavalry under Vincent at Ottignies where there was an intact unguarded bridge over the Dyle just 5 miles from Maransart. Berton's brigade was guarding a road leading to Ottignies near to La Baraque just 4 miles from Walhain where Grouchy was hearing the guns from Waterloo. Unfortunately Exelmans messenger saying that he had found this way to cross the Dyle arrived just as Grouchy was having his argument with Gerard and Grouchy himself ordered Vincent's brigade away from the bridge at Ottignies. Certainly Exelmans cavalry corps could have reached Plancenoit between 5 and 6pm and their appearance in the distance approaching from the SE earlier than that might have caused the Prussians to at least pause.
I guess it is not necessary to change Breton/Berton's name although those reading Houssaye and the like might be confused. Perhaps a future convention might be to put nicknames in brackets if there is space.
After posting and before your reply, I did find a French site where his name was written Breton (dit Berton). I did not understand what that meant but at least now I know that dit means nickname!
Berton like all the battle name (it means more or less like Big Bert) was widely used so is normal authors used it in narrative. "Dit" (in italian we use the exact translation version "Detto") litirally means "Told" "Said", but in english is translated better as "known as".
After have spent more than 6 months to making the oobs for the game, I can assure you is always the oobs of Waterloo are far from sure, especially the french one, because the last official roll call was of 10 June, but changed happened after, perhaps also additional battalions reached the army (like for sure the 3rd battalion of 93 de ligne, with perhaps the 4th battalion of same regiment, which appears in a couple of references of soldiers sources but cannot be proved to be present). Anglosaxon authors compiling the french oob are in biggest part incorrect also many of more recent: the more evident error is the missing switching of 2nd leger from the Jerome to Bachelu division, which happened after the 10 June the date of last official roll call of french army; the french authors know about the switch happened because of successive sources, but at example Adkin Companion is wrong. Again Adkin is wrong about the Marine Artillery as auxiliary artillery inside the Guards: from the frenchs sources no Marine artillery company was assigned to the Army of North, but from the letter of Napoleon to Davout appears 300 sailors has been used for refill artillery companies of guards.
I understand why the French records were incomplete and have to be based more on anecdote. I expect I will just use an arithmetic conversion to reduce Grouchy's 4 corps by 13-14%.
Until I started researching the precise location of Grouchy's units I had not realised that he effectively already had a bridge over the Dyle available to him. His movements after that were rather unwise even if he wanted to attack Wavre it would have been more sensible to be on the other bank of the river. However, I do think historians are rather unkind to him after all he had 33,000 and was following a force of 80,000+. Perhaps he had that in mind when not crossing the river!
