Page 2 of 2

Re:Why War?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:24 am
by JC Edwards
hoistingman4 wrote:
Take a course in Sociology 101 you will find your answer.
Sorry, but, piss on the Sociology theory.

And what does thinking like a Neanderthal have anything to do with it?
Does that describe Robert E. Lee? Thomas Jackson? U.S. Grant? Winfield Scott Hancock?

In the case of George Custer....I couldn't agree more. But again, his was more ego than the thinking of a Neanderthal.

Were the American Indian's of the 18th & 19th Centuries thinking like Neanderthal's when they were at war with the white man? No. They were doing their utmost to protect what belonged to them.....their homes and families.
Of course in the case of the white's at that time, it's pretty blatant thet their thinking was one of greed.

The two main cause's of war since the beginning of modern history?
Religion and Politics.

Not much room for Sociology in there.......just mindless dribble.

"Do as I say or else!"......."You must believe what I believe"......."You must believe in my God or I will destroy you"....... so much for the Sociology theory

War, for the most part, has had everything to do with control and power......which does not take a course in Sociology to figure out.

In the case of Neanderthal's it was about 1 thing........survival.

Re:Why War?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:48 am
by BOSTON
Everything you said had to do with social values! Social values such as; religion -politics-laws-traditions. I'm not fond of the subject either, science has to do with experimenting, observation and results, which in itself sounds far away from war, but nonetheless, is why war has been an ongoing process, even with Neanderthals of today.

Re:Why War?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:18 am
by norb
I think that the reason doesn't matter at all. I think that we would have war no matter what. If it wasn't survival nor religion, we would make up something new. It just seems like too many desire war, like it's in our blood.

Re:Why War?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:39 am
by Gfran64
This was how Abraham Lincoln saw his dilemma at the beginning of his first term as President as summarized in the last 2 paragraphs of his 1st Inaugural Address:

"In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to "preserve, protect, and defend it."
"I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

The "better angels of our nature," lost out to the "passion" of the situation. Mistakes were made by both sides and the country paid a terrible price, perhaps even still to this day. Throughout history it seems as though our angels usually lose to our passions, at least when it comes to war.


Greg B)