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Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:55 pm
by Joshua l.Chamberlain
I used Chamberlain because he became a division commander by the end of the war.

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:56 pm
by Gfran64
How many battles did the ANV win after they lost Jackson????????

Greg B)

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:08 pm
by Armchair General
Joshua l.Chamberlain wrote:
I used Chamberlain because he became a division commander by the end of the war.
I hate to sound arrogant, but no, he didn't. He was brevetted, but he never commanded a division.

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:07 am
by Flanyboy
How many more Moron commanders did the Union have after Jackson?

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:28 am
by Gfran64
IMHO none.

Greg B)

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:09 am
by estabu2
Gfran64 wrote:
How many battles did the ANV win after they lost Jackson????????

Greg B)
The ANV was on the downward slide, in terms of amount of men available, and Jackson's/Lee's penchant for attack would have run them into the ground anyways. Say Jackson lives through Chancellorsville and heads on to Gettysburg. Grant still wins at Vicksburg and comes east, he gets his mass of men and then we are right back to Grant vs. Lee 1864. IMO, the ANV was over as an offensive army after Chancellorsville/Gettysburg.

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:42 am
by Armchair General
Flanyboy wrote:
How many more Moron commanders did the Union have after Jackson?
If you mean the Army of the Potomac, I also believe none.

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:04 am
by Joshua l.Chamberlain
No Burnside showed up for many of the last of the battles but as usual he couldn't even do simple tasks like filling the gap between the II and V Corps during the Wilderness it took him forever. Also he screwed up a good plan for the crater he sent his men straight into it.

Re:Longstreet vs. Lee

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:14 pm
by Armchair General
Joshua l.Chamberlain wrote:
No Burnside showed up for many of the last of the battles but as usual he couldn't even do simple tasks like filling the gap between the II and V Corps during the Wilderness it took him forever. Also he screwed up a good plan for the crater he sent his men straight into it.
Grant and Meade did that; They didn't want the Colored Troops slaughtered because then it would look like that they were just wasting the Coloreds for the hell of it. Burnside had ordered the Colored Troops to train and train in the weeks before the attack, and then was overruled once the tunnel was actually finished and the attack ready.