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Generals as quarterbacks? Quarterbacks as generals?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:20 pm
by IronBMike
Actually I posted this in Civil War, but it doesn't really fit there or anywhere else, so I'll just throw it here instead.

I like to think of football as being the closest simulation to war that we have, at least in terms of a sport. So to kill some time this afternoon I decided to pick a commander from history and create his quarterback statistics as if he was in the NFL.

I chose Napoleon, and even though he wasn't a Civil War general (obviously), I posted it here because I plan to do more for Civil War generals or to see what other people have to say.

This is how I came up with his numbers:

- First I took his major campaigns and came up with 12 of them. With this, I gave each one statistics as if it was one game in a season.

- After Napoleon's personal stats, I put the result of the whole game, which takes into account the final outcome and the performance of the rest of the team.

- Remember here, Napoleon is his own playcaller!

- I then took his game stats and just multiplied them into 16 game seasons for his career stats. Obviously, these are skewed by ridiculous amounts. But if Napoleon had been a real quarterback and called all his own plans, it is plausible. Someone with that much talent + ambition (read: never running the ball when he could throw, going for it on fourth downs) could theoretically put up those kinds of numbers.

How I came up with the stats (roughly):

- Attempts: Ambition/length/objective of the campaign
- Completions: How many he achieved/how well he achieved these
- Cmp%: Kind of obvious. This numbers indicates how efficient his campaign was
- Yds: Length of campaign + how much actually accomplished. Dramatic/decisive victories = big plays = big yards
- TD: Big time victories (not a specific number correlated with a number of battles, just my general feeling while keeping within the scope of the campaign)
- INT: Big time failures (same as above)
- Yards per attempt: Measures how much he accomplished versus how much time he did it in basically. I tried to make it so that this number is the best measure of success, just like it is in the NFL (look it up: the best correlation to good quarterbacks and to wins is Y/A).

Keep in mind, I didn't use a formula or anything for this. I was just going off the top of my head. Feel free to add suggestions. Maybe next time I'll actually do one victory = one TD and such to make it more exact.

Who would he compare to? I would say, based on what I came up with, an insane combination of Marino and Favre, with some Jeff George. Lots of TDs, lots of INTs, but still a good ratio. Good yards but not amazing. Headstrong.

Season:

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Career:

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Any suggestions for who to work on next?

I'm thinking Lee.

Re:Generals as quarterbacks? Quarterbacks as generals?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:43 am
by Hancock the Superb
Interesting...

How about Winfield Scott?

Re:Generals as quarterbacks? Quarterbacks as generals?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:01 am
by Gfran64
Why not use the NFL QB rating? It might be a better measure.

a= (((Comp/Att)*100)-30)/20

b= ((TD's/Att)*100)/5

c= (9.5-(Int/Att)*100))/4

d= ((Yards/Att)-3)/4

a, b, c and d cannot be greater than 2.375 or less than 0

QB Rating= (a+b+c+d)/.06

Regards,

Greg B)

Re:Generals as quarterbacks? Quarterbacks as generals?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:14 am
by IronBMike
Personally I find the QB rating to be a flawed measurement. It is weighted to standards of 50 years ago and does not accurately represent today's game. Of course, it's still an easy number to look at to see if someone is good or not, but I don't put any stock in it.