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Melee Resolution Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:55 am
by Jean Lafitte
I have found a feature in the game that I hope somebody can explain. I notice that late in the game and even against weak Prussian cavalry, French elite cavalry will surrender in melee despite the fact that they are completely rested and with high morale. What are the reasons for this?

Most French cavalry is going to have taken casualties by the time the Prussians arrive. If the Prussian cavalry is able to defeat even the Grenadiers a Cheval, then I doubt that the French can hold on against two Prussian corps, much less three.

I must be missing some warning sign that would tell me that the melee has a chance to cause my attacking unit to surrender. The morale and fatigue levels are optimal. There must be something else that I am missing.

Thanks.

Re: Melee Resolution Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:31 am
by RebBugler
If a cavalry unit has lost 40% of their initial strength, they are near the tipping point and will rout easily regardless of their status. Could this have been the case?

Re: Melee Resolution Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:16 am
by mcaryf
Does the loss of cavalry to man captured artillery count towards that? In fact does that loss also count in the points score? If it does then that is another reason to change that feature.

Regards

Mike

Re: Melee Resolution Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:53 am
by RebBugler
Does the loss of cavalry to man captured artillery count towards that? In fact does that loss also count in the points score? If it does then that is another reason to change that feature.

Regards

Mike
Yes it does. But help is on the horizon. Coming with the next patch cavalry will not man guns after capture, white flag goes up and capture points are awarded, regardless of the OOB structure.

Re: Melee Resolution Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:22 pm
by Saddletank
That will be a huge improvement. This should be implemented for a gun captured by infantry as well since no-one manned captured guns in Napoleonic battles. That whole mechanism has been a curious anachronism since day 1 of Gettysburg.

Re: Melee Resolution Question.

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:29 am
by Jean Lafitte
If a cavalry unit has lost 40% of their initial strength, they are near the tipping point and will rout easily regardless of their status. Could this have been the case?
This can easily be the case and that's probably the answer. The French Cav is going to have lots of units at 40 percent loss by he time the Prussians arrive in force.

This characteristic of cav that's taken losses needs to be taken into account when designing scenarios and patching up WL10 and WL20.