The screenshots

[Webwing]

Whenever I see those screenshots I go "Wow!". Cavalry is looking very good indeed.

It looks fantastic and I´m sure it will play the same. TC2M is great. If this is the improved version then I´m really anxious to download it!

Congratulations to all involved!

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[norb]

Thanks webwing. We are very anxious to finish it.

[pcelt]

I have found the latest screenshots really awesome except in just 1 respect--- it may just be me, but in some of the shots I found the colour of the horses much too unrealistically bright--in my view the brown needs to be toned down to look more realistic and convincing and to tone in with all the other images.
I found the same problem when viewing the video sequence featuring cavalry.

I am uneasy about carping because, as I said, the shots,in all other respects seem awesome and really brilliant.
Cheers

[norb]

We'll make sure to go yell at Tim, or at least pass on your comments.

Worst case, you can easily go into the files and change it yourself.

[pcelt]

Thanks for your reply Norb--but please dont yell at the brilliant Tim--He lives (or used to) only 2 miles away from me in Brighton, England and could send a few of his "heavies" round to sort me out.
No-if everyone else is happy with the colour of the cavalry horses and they dont find them unnaturally bright then it must be a strange individual quirk and I'll happily drop the issue.
Thanks

[Amish John]

pcelt wrote:

I have found the latest screenshots really awesome except in just 1 respect--- it may just be me, but in some of the shots I found the colour of the horses much too unrealistically bright--in my view the brown needs to be toned down to look more realistic and convincing and to tone in with all the other images.
I found the same problem when viewing the video sequence featuring cavalry.

I am uneasy about carping because, as I said, the shots,in all other respects seem awesome and really brilliant.
Cheers

Could be the hot July sun glistening off the sweat of the lathered up horses. Looks like the army got a good deal on a large batch of Chestnuts. The below link is pretty close to the screenshots.

http://www.equifeeds.co.za/Equifeeds%20 ... allery.jpg

[pcelt]

Greetings Amish John--Thanks for your reply and also the photo of the chestnut .

The problem in my eyes may be because the distinctive and bright chestnut colour ,when joined up in long lines of identically coloured horses ,looks to me a little over the top and not visually convincing. If the whole line of horses is to be identical in colour (programming demands), I feel a less bright and striking colour would blend more realistically in with the rest of the visual portrayal and not stand out and dominate the situation as I feel the long lines of bright chestnut animals currently do.

In TC2M the cavalry horses were a darker brown and I feel looked more natural and convincing and less obtrusive than these current chestnut lines do.

But as I have indicated earlier, if no-one else shares this reaction I will assume it is a personal quirk or aberration , drop the topic,and call for the men in the white suits to come and take me away......... .
Thanks

[Amish John]

pcelt wrote:

Greetings Amish John--Thanks for your reply and also the photo of the chestnut .

The problem in my eyes may be because the distinctive and bright chestnut colour ,when joined up in long lines of identically coloured horses ,looks to me a little over the top and not visually convincing. If the whole line of horses is to be identical in colour (programming demands), I feel a less bright and striking colour would blend more realistically in with the rest of the visual portrayal and not stand out and dominate the situation as I feel the long lines of bright chestnut animals currently do.

In TC2M the cavalry horses were a darker brown and I feel looked more natural and convincing and less obtrusive than these current chestnut lines do.

But as I have indicated earlier, if no-one else shares this reaction I will assume it is a personal quirk or aberration , drop the topic,and call for the men in the white suits to come and take me away......... .
Thanks

Actually, I agree with you. While I think the horse colors may be a bit bright I don't think they are so much so as to be unrealistic, but as you said I also would have prefered a bit darker more subdued hue, but that's just us. I bet one of the modders will offer some options in this area shortly after the game is released.

Again, as far as I'm concerned there is nothing wrong with the horses, it's just personal preferences for people like you and me. From past posts, I assume (not being a programmer) that anytime you add various options for a spite you are chewing up valuable memory. Anyway, I'll probably be spending so much time wondering how those rebs got around my flank that I won't have much time to think about horsehide.

John

[tim]

I'm still in Brighton! The horse colour is taken from actual photographs either from the web or from photos I have taken. In retrospect I would have made the difference between the 2 rebel horses more defined but models in Maya, then rendered, then in game all look subtly different. They have also gone through a process of sharpening and increasing saturation as some the team thought the sprites to washed out and dusty looking. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

You may find the colours in game are not so saturated - the screenshots look a bit high in colour too me. It may be the web or that they have been tinkered with slightly.

[Kerflumoxed]

Could be the hot July sun glistening off the sweat of the lathered up horses. Looks like the army got a good deal on a large batch of Chestnuts. The below link is pretty close to the screenshots.

http://www.equifeeds.co.za/Equifeeds%20 ... allery.jpg[/quote]

Well, have to toss my 2 cents worth into this "discussion" of horse colors!

As I look at the pics (which are great!) I have concluded that the predominant color of the horses displayed are what some of the old cowboys (with which I rode during my ranching days) would call a "blood-red Bay." They range in several variations ranging from a very light to a darker Bay. When the lower legs are looked at in the photos, they appear to be black, a very common color for the Bay as is the black mane and tail. Somewhere I have a photo of a Bay that I used to ride and will see if I can find it for comparative purposes. Here is a site that shows a variety of Bays (Note the black socks):

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&s ... CBsQsAQwAw


As to the Chestnut pictured, it appears to me to be a Sorrel! A Chestnut (at least in the west) would be much darker in color, nearing a brown. Could be wrong, however, as evidenced from this set of photos:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&u ... m2&start=0

Of course, the most common color is that of a Sorrel as pictured below (might note that most Sorrels wore white markings, a la Gene Autry's Champion)

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&u ... m2&start=0

Hmmmmm....gets a little confusing, doesn't it? :S

J