Question about the latest video about graphical display of fences

[spruce]

I like the new video a lot on you tube.

But I have a question relating to the fences you are displaying in the game - instead of straigth lines, some of the fences form a "hooked" pattern. I don't know the word in English, but in Dutch we call it "zig zag" like boats are sailing when there's little wind.

Will you have the straigth fence in the retail version ?

[Amish John]

Hi Spruce,

I hope the weather is warmer in the Netherlands than it is here in Pennsylvania. Maybe I can save the Norbsoft guys some keystrokes and attempt to answer this one.

I believe the fences you are describing are the ones made of split rails laid upon each other in a zig-zag pattern. Here in the US we call these "worm fences". This type of fence is historically accurate to the Gettysburg Battlefield and was used extensively in the mid 19th century here in the US. Today, many of the recreated fences on the Gettysburg Battlefield are of this type.

In addition to this "worm fence", other types of fences that were present on the battlefield were stone walls, post and split rail, post and board, Virginia Rider, and Picket style to name some. There may be more.

Based on Norbsoft's attention to detail, while perhaps it is not possible for every historic fence to be represented in the game, I'd bet most of the ones that are represented are of the correct type historically based on the available reference documents the mapmakers used.

Hopefully, NSD's people can expound on this or correct me if I've guessed wrong.

[DrMike1997]

Also, if you look, you will see a couple of different fence types. I know I saw some straight wood fences as well as dry stone fences and maybe a mortar stone fence as well? The mixed uniform confederates look amazing. How many uniform types are there in a regiment?

[Hancock the Superb]

It's been said before: This game is a piece of art.

[Kerflumoxed]

spruce wrote:

I like the new video a lot on you tube.

But I have a question relating to the fences you are displaying in the game - instead of straigth lines, some of the fences form a "hooked" pattern. I don't know the word in English, but in Dutch we call it "zig zag" like boats are sailing when there's little wind.

Will you have the straigth fence in the retail version ?

And remember the orders of the High Command: "Troops can only take the top rail for their fires...under threat of court martial!" :S

One thing regarding the wood fences, when the artillery "crosses over" with the fence be dismanteled to all their passing throught?

And, on the same topic, will there be a restriction on arty passing only through gates/openings in stone fences? (Don't believe the horses had the later "snow plow" ability of future wars! :woohoo:)

J

[norb]

No restriction, as always you just slow down very much while moving over those areas.

[spruce]

@ Amish John

Well, as a matter of fact I'm not living in the Netherlands. Half of Belgium (Northern Part) speaks Dutch - in Flanders (as in Flanders fields).

The weather here is quite cold at the moment, they forecasted some 14 days of cold winter weather.

Thank you about the explanation. I did consider these fences to be historical correct, but I couldn't figure out what the purpose would be of those zig-zag patterns. Funny, you are also using the "zig-zag", we use the same word.

I also noticed different types of fences the video - I was considering to be Gettysburg the pinacle of fences development during the 19'th century.

Glad to see the game will be so in depth. I loved the second Manassas game and as a European got me addicted in the US civil war.

Thanks for the info ! Also thank you to the other people that helped out.

[bedbug]

...... and Eric personally made and placed all those wood fences when we were making the maps! All the fences were documented after the battle so each type of fencing is in its proper place.
There was a lot of talk at the time that Gettysburg must have been the fence capitol of North America.

[Kerflumoxed]

Some compliments are due the team!

First, glad to see that the infantry moves in a column of fours rather than the European column of threes as is used in TC2M.

Second, really great to see skirmishers deployed in two ranks and then "Rally on Company!" being used! Will the "Rally" command be employed by the player, or will they automatically "Rally" at the sight of the enemy? I always found the TC2M inability to hold the skirmishers in place until they were pressed or support arrived, to be unrealistic.

Third, what a pleasant surprise to see the "File Closers" behind the lines! Outstanding!

Fourth, the scenery is magnificent!

Questions:

Picky, picky, picky! Lot of "white" shirt among the Rebs...perhaps too many. Civilian shirts were the norm for the Confederates and were a "patch-work" quilt of patterns including stripes, plaids, checks and even some pillow-ticking British military shirts with the Broad Arrow markings that were ran through the blockade.

Do the troops have the ability to "kneel" behind the fences?


The entire team is to be congratulated on their accomplishments! Thanks, guys! Three Rebel Yells are in order: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

J

[Amish John]

I know this link has been posted before, but it may be of interest to the newer members who would like a good period map of the battlefield showing all the farms (and their construction materials), fence locations and types, and other info.

http://www.simmonsgames.com/tools/mapvi ... Frame.html