Courier Question?

[Davinci]

Hey, I’m not sure if this has been asked before, but I don’t know the correct answer to this!

Is there a setting in the Open Play game, that will allow for the courier to be dispatched by the Sender?

Example – General Lee – is stationed way back behind the lines, and both General Longstreet, and General Jackson are positioned near the battle-line that is now forming.

I click on one of them and order a different movement to one of their divisions, but the courier is sent by General Lee, and not by the sender.

Basically, can the courier by sent by either one of them, and not by the Commanding Officer?

Thanks,

davinci

[con20or]

does the courier go to longstreet/jackson or the division?

im guessing that you cant give an order to a division without it going directly, even by specifiying the commanders name, it only goes to the unit under their command, you aren't actually ordering them.

courier play is the best thing in the game, but it gets very confusing at times.

[Little Powell]

Any courier message you send will come from you.. I've asked myself this same question before, and then it dawned on me. In real life, you couldn't take control of another commander and have them send around couriers. Any message you send is composed by you, any message other commanders send is composed by them.

[Davinci]

does the courier go to Longstreet / Jackson or the division?

I’m guessing that you can’t give an order to a division without it going directly, even by specifying the commander’s name, it only goes to the unit under their command, and you aren't actually ordering them.

If Jackson \ Longstreet – in this example are sending the order to one of their divisions – the message is actually dispatched by General Lee – but it does go to the correct Divisional leader, and the order is obeyed.

Any courier message you send will come from you.. I’ve asked myself this same question before, and then it dawned on me. In real life, you couldn't take control of another commander and have them send around couriers. Any message you send is composed by you, any message other commanders send is composed by them.

I think that it should work something like this, if a Brigade leader is asking for assistance from another Brigade Commander of equal rank, depending on their graduation date – they should not be allowed to order each other around.

So, a Brigade Commander’s courier order should leave his position – ride over to the Divisional Commander’s position, and the divisional commander should decide on sending help.

Considering that Jackson \ Longstreet are Corps Commanders – General Lee would not object or interfere with them directing their on divisional leaders around.

So, the courier message from them should be dispatched by them at their present location, and not the location of General Lee [/b] which is several miles behind them.

Am I explaining this right?

davinci

[Little Powell]

The only time a courier is sent by a commander other than you is when they are not TC'd. This means this commander is thinking and making decisions on their own (under AI control).

So, a Brigade Commander’s courier order should leave his position – ride over to the Divisional Commander’s position, and the divisional commander should decide on sending help.

That may indeed be happening. Un-TC'd units are sending couriers around constantly that you can't read.

Considering that Jackson \ Longstreet are Corps Commanders – General Lee would not object or interfere with them directing their on divisional leaders around.

Exactly, but Lee would interfere from time to time. Think of it this way. If you are Lee and you are going for 100% realistic play, you will send a courier to un-TC'd Longstreet that his orders are to "All out Attack". After that, he becomes like a living breathing commander and will make all decisions on his own, sending out his own couriers etc. (if you wait long enough he will start sending his Divisions around the map). If you don't like something that he's doing, that's when you bypass the chain of command and order his division around (dispatching couriers from your present location).

[Davinci]

Little Powell – all Commanding Officers are under my direct control – Take Command is on.

Hey, I think that I just came up with a better example to explain this problem:

I can place General’s Longstreet \ Jackson behind the enemies line, practically in Meade’s headquarters, dispatch a courier message by them, and the message will still get through – due to the fact that it never leaves their position.

The message will be sent by General Lee – which is on the other side of the map.

This is basically what I’m trying to explain, and have fixed.

davinci

[con20or]

you are explaining it right Ive started a few threads on courier play, they are very difficult to explain, theres so much division, brigade,corps goin on in each sentence! But could you explain this a bit more? When you say 'i click on one of them and order one of their divisions', how to you do that? if you click on jackson/longstreet and order a movement, you are ordering the whole corps, but if you click on the division, you are ordering the division (only possible if you are lee,or the commander). Or are you using the courier menu?


So are you jackson/longstreet in this scenario or lee? Sounds to me like you picked lee at the setup screen...it's an easy step to miss, i didnt notice it for months. Even when you pick a division V division engagement, you could show up as lee. Then I realised you could be different commanders in open play, even though all of the commanders up to the army commander will be created each time (and wander around sightseeing).

That way you can play as division/corps, but not play as the army commander, and let the Ai order you around and control the overall battle.

[Little Powell]

dispatch a courier message by them, and the message will still get through –
davinci

I understand completely. TC'd or not, when playing couriers you can't dispatch a message from someone else.

Think of it this way. If you were playing MP, would you be able to dispatch a courier from another human player?

[Davinci]

When you say 'i click on one of them and order one of their divisions', how to you do that? if you click on jackson/longstreet and order a movement, you are ordering the whole corps, but if you click on the division, you are ordering the division (only possible if you are lee,or the commander). Or are you using the courier menu?

Yes, I'm using the Courier Menu to direct the movements of the forces until they reach the battle-line. It is only at that time that I Take-Command of them.

Yes, the Courier-System is one of the best improvements with this game.

davinci

[Davinci]

Think of it this way. If you were playing MP, would you be able to dispatch a courier from another human player?

Understood - but this is Open Play and the game should be designed for both.

So, basically - there is not a setting at this time that will allow for this!

Thanks, for the replies guy's!

davinci