Pleasant Hill, Louisiana, April 9, 1864 Map WIP Pics

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Re: Pleasant Hill, Louisiana, April 9, 1864 Map WIP Pics

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Screens look great, looking forward to trying out the real thing. Question, are the trees from Jolly's mod? Regardless, luv the look of the green. Glad to see those DRF's wavin'... :)

Edit: Oops, just saw the thread explaining the trees...nice adaptations!
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Really looking forward to these new maps 2nd Texas, and very grateful to you for all the hard work.

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Wow ....I can almost hear Richard Taylor blaspheming - urging his men on! Great work as always
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Wow ....I can almost hear Richard Taylor blaspheming - urging his men on! Great work as always
Yeah Good ol Dick Taylor. He was a great General and a very smart man, however, he could only agree and respect one man.....Dick Taylor. However, he loved his soldiers and they loved him. I am suprised he didn't out-right kill Edmund Kirby Smith after he transfered the majority of his army into Arkansas during his pursuit of Banks' defeated columns. It was unfortunate he could have probably captured Banks' entire army at Monet's Ferry a few of weeks after Pleasant Hill. He was a true student of Stonewall Jackson's doggedness and swift action. Hell, he had Maj. Gen Thomas Churchill's command march 46 miles in slightly less than two days, gave em an hour and a half rest and hurled them at the Federals at Pleasant Hill. He also told them "To rely on the bayonet"..sounds familiar again.
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New pics uploaded, see first page.
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New pics uploaded, see first page.
Excellent Pictures, your maps are advancing far past the default games graphics !

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Dry creek and cane !! Wow ! :ohmy: Very...very..good 2nd Texas Infantry :woohoo:

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Wow ....I can almost hear Richard Taylor blaspheming - urging his men on! Great work as always
Yeah Good ol Dick Taylor. He was a great General and a very smart man, however, he could only agree and respect one man.....Dick Taylor. However, he loved his soldiers and they loved him. I am suprised he didn't out-right kill Edmund Kirby Smith after he transfered the majority of his army into Arkansas during his pursuit of Banks' defeated columns. It was unfortunate he could have probably captured Banks' entire army at Monet's Ferry a few of weeks after Pleasant Hill. He was a true student of Stonewall Jackson's doggedness and swift action. Hell, he had Maj. Gen Thomas Churchill's command march 46 miles in slightly less than two days, gave em an hour and a half rest and hurled them at the Federals at Pleasant Hill. He also told them "To rely on the bayonet"..sounds familiar again.
One of the best generals of the war Kirby Smith dropped a right clanger taking troops away from Taylor during the Red River campaign - one of my favorite stories of Taylor was during the Valley Campaign of 1862

Taylor was advancing his Louisiana Brigade which was under under heavy artillery fire near Winchester. When some of the troops ducked, Taylor apparently barated them “ What the hell are you dodging for?”
as well as a few more expletives. Just then he felt a hand on his arm, Taylor swung round to berate its owner and was surprised to find Stonewall Jackson who stared reproachfully at Taylor, saying there was no excuse for such language, especially on Sunday. He then placed his hand on Taylor’s shoulder and commented, “I am afraid you are a wicked fellow”.

This may be the case but both Jackson and Lee rated Taylor as one of the best officers in the army - he was only snubbed by some (inc Kirby Smith) as he was not a professional soldier pre-war although I'm sure his father (US General and 12th President of the United States)Zachary Taylor taught him plenty!
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One of the best generals of the war Kirby Smith

Unfortunately Zeke, I disagree with you about Gen. Edmund Kirby Smith. He is the true definiton of a curmudgeon. "Kirby Smithdom" nickname of the Trans-Mississippi department, was bascally its own "fiefdom" in the Confederacy after the fall of vicksburg, and this general, although better than his predecessors, Lt. Gen. "Granny" Holmes and Maj. Gen. Earl van Dorn, in no way, helped the cause.

For example, he squandered and hampered the aggressive Maj. Gen. Richard Taylor's opportunity to assault or feint an attack on New Orleans during the Port Hudson Campaign to relieve pressure on Maj. Gen. Garland's besieged forces, but more impotantly, he hampered Taylor's efforts to do anything.
Second, He didn't replace Maj. Gen. Sterling Price as commander of the army or "corps" operating in Arkansas. Price, a horrible general, was able to manipulate Kirby Smith at will for his own ill conceived plans "Ill fated Oct. 1864 Missouri Raid". Price and Kirby Smith are responsible for the total lack of organization and discipline in the theater.
Third, as mentioned before, he squandered the best strategic and political opportunity to trap Banks' and Porters fleet in Louisiana. Imagine the fallout from 30,000 men and an entire fleet captured. That would have diverted Farragut from Mobile, required Sherman and possibly Grant to send troops to the Gulf coast, and possible recapture of New Orleans. That would mean Farragut wouldnt fight at Mobile Bay, slowed Sherman's progress in Atlanta, and more importantly, revitalized the South's resolve to redouble their war efforts and caused the fickle Northern press and national sentiment toward the war to wane in its support. This could possibly effected the Lincoln re-election. Instead, Kirby Smith, selfishly not wanting all the glory going to Taylor, strips him of all the Infantry and fights a no longer threat by Maj. Gen. Frederick Steele's starving contigent of 8,500 men that was already retreating. He fights and wins a pyrrhic victory at Jenkins Ferry, loosing nearly a thousand men and two good brigade commanders (Scurry & Randall) all for nothing.
Lastly, His battle and political connections. Obvious crony of Jeff Davis (nuff said). Commanded a brigade that was, out of circumstance, in the right place at the right time at Manassas. He should get no credit, he was wounded before it did its damage to the Federal right wing. His independent command in Kentucky was succesful tactically at Richmond Kentucky only because of Genls. Patrick Cleburne (and his elite brigade from Bragg's Army) and Thomas Churchill's vetrans of Wilson's Creek and Elkhorn Tavern. Not only the pedigree of these stalwarts, but the ineptitude of the green Federals and their wretched commanders; Bull Nelson and Mahlon Manson, play a huge factor in the battle's outcome. I would lay the blame of several other opportunities in Kentucky but those all need to rest on the shoulder's of Braxton Bragg.
Sorry to rant and rave, but I detest Edmund Kirby Smith.
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The war is done now.....You say that you detest the man like something should have changed.
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