Automatic Formation Change to Column

[KG_Soldier]

Sorry, Reb. . . I didn't know it was a competition. My point was that it's also modable in MP.

And congrats for being the first one to do it. Well done.

[RebBugler]

No Reb. Garnier has modded the GCM so that if you give a division commander a movement order (by clicking on a spot) and then a formation order, that division will remain in that formation the entire movement: double lines, whichever. The same is true of brigade commanders and individual regiments. Of course, as I said before, un tc'd brigade commanders can change the orders.

We're talking Holding Lines, not maintaining formations, although this is still difficult when the enemy is in the LOS, unless officers are TC'd. If they are also holding lines within the formations...this is gotta see, as then Garnier would have tapped into hard coding the game engine.

[KG_Soldier]

I meant exactly what I said. In GCM games, if you give a division commander an order to move to a location and then give him a formation order such as double lines, the entire division will march in double line formation with each regiment remaining in line formation throughout the movement (unless the enemy comes in los, as you said).

The same is true (in the GCM) with brigade commanders (and as I said they should be tc'd so they don't change the orders). The entire brigade will march to the destination in double line formation with each regiment in line.

And regiments given a movement order and a line formation order will march in line formation until they reach their destination.

They do not have to be tc'd.

If you like to see it for yourself, just let me know when and I'll set up a test game with you. You'll just have to get the latest GCM update.

[KG_Soldier]

If they are also holding lines within the formations...this is gotta see, as then Garnier would have tapped into hard coding the game engine.

I don't pretend to know how he did it. But he did.

[RebBugler]

I meant exactly what I said. In GCM games, if you give a division commander an order to move to a location and then give him a formation order such as double lines, the entire division will march in double line formation with each regiment remaining in line formation throughout the movement (unless the enemy comes in los, as you said).

The same is true (in the GCM) with brigade commanders (and as I said they should be tc'd so they don't change the orders). The entire brigade will march to the destination in double line formation with each regiment in line.

And regiments given a movement order and a line formation order will march in line formation until they reach their destination.

They do not have to be tc'd.

If you like to see it for yourself, just let me know when and I'll set up a test game with you. You'll just have to get the latest GCM update.

No, you're correct. These formations, as with all formations, can be given and will hold their form without the aid of TC. So, with these Hold Line formations, they will also retain regiments in line. I was assuming we were talking battle situations, when TC is necessary so the officer will not revert to the default, or, as you said, change orders.

Still, I plan to get more into MP play now, as finally with 1.5 and our Matrix union, I am able to host. Looking forward to discussing things with you guys on Teamspeak, talk to ya'll soon.

[NY Cavalry]

I'm a little confused myself now as to what we have been discussing all this time.

In gcm and my own mod, regiments only go into column when ordered to. You can advance from Gettysburg to DD in lines and never go into column. Just start out in lines and they will stay in lines for any distance.

[RebBugler]

I'm a little confused myself now as to what we have been discussing all this time.

In gcm and my own mod, regiments only go into column when ordered to. You can advance from Gettysburg to DD in lines and never go into column. Just start out in lines and they will stay in lines for any distance.

Yeah, this I gotta see. When given a long distance to travel, initial line formations will default to column for most of the distance, then, start to assume their original line formation, as they begin to arrive at their destination. So, maybe you guys have discovered something that counters the default. I'll visit to see this soon.

Still, this is an anomaly, otherwise, why would this thread have even started?

[NY Cavalry]

As Pickett you could organize your division into lines on Seminary ridge and advance the entire way to the angle without ever going into column formation. Lines the whole way, the way I like it.

Then, of course, the tracking could get a bit nutty, but that is a different thread.

I assumed previously that this is what we were talking about. For me the game is much more enjoyable without the regiments going into columns and then back to lines. That part of the "realism" is very important to me.

[Saddletank]

In GCM games, if you give a division commander an order to move to a location and then give him a formation order such as double lines, the entire division will march in double line formation with each regiment remaining in line formation throughout the movement (unless the enemy comes in los, as you said).

What is the issue with the enemy being seen? Does the AI then revert at once to default columns?

What I'm looking for is the opposite - the ability to make a brigade stay in lines and advance or withdraw, when the enemy is in sight. Prior to the enemy coming in sight I'm happy using march columns.

Does the GCM mod allow that?

That part of the "realism" is very important to me.

This.

[KG_Soldier]

In GCM games, if you give a division commander an order to move to a location and then give him a formation order such as double lines, the entire division will march in double line formation with each regiment remaining in line formation throughout the movement (unless the enemy comes in los, as you said).

What is the issue with the enemy being seen? Does the AI then revert at once to default columns?

What I'm looking for is the opposite - the ability to make a brigade stay in lines and advance or withdraw, when the enemy is in sight. Prior to the enemy coming in sight I'm happy using march columns.

Does the GCM mod allow that?

That part of the "realism" is very important to me.

This.

Yes, units will hold line for the whole movement order . . . what I meant there is if you have a column by division or anything other than line order, they will go to line when they near the enemy. If they are already in line, there is no change.