Steam info please!

[Destraex]

I have used steam in the past for some games but don't now. Seeing as this game's value is in community mods, steam would not help us for that.

Just like Facebook and Google are very popular but have people who dislike or avoid them, there are gamers who don't use steam.

If a steam release is there for those who want it that would be great, but the game shouldn't be available ONLY via steam.

Correct. There are always people afraid of change. But sometimes a little push is needed for peoples and the games own good.

[redcoat]

i have used steam since it first came out and i was not a fan. in the beginning it was as buggy as hell and intrusive. now it seems to behave itself for the most part. the problem with it is, if you have slow internet connectivity it can still be a giant pain. if the game is not a steam exclusive i belive it would be better. a choice is always preferable.

[oetjoel]

yes! i demand the publisher to release SoW Waterloo on steam. much easier for me to acquire this game via steam

[Stellar Duck]

Nobody said steam only.

And yes, steam now has workshop, modders upload their mods to steam, you just click one button and the mod is downloaded and installed right away not only that, but any update to the mod is automatically downloaded and installed. So i would say steam would be great help to this game.

The workshop is unbelievably bad though.

It's hands down one of the worst mod managers I've encountered. And I used SIX Updater for crying out loud.

Hell, JSGME is the superior choice all of the time.

I don't much care if there is a Steam version but I won't be using it.

[con20or]

kg_sspoom is correct - Matrix are our distributors, so it will be a Matrix release initially. We have not given up on a Waterloo release on STEAM, or for the legacy games. Non steam-purchased games can be added to STEAM very easily, I do it with quite a few of mine.

[redcoat]

i wouldnt dream of demanding anything by way of distribution. but if you can give the customer a choice i.e steam or not steam,that would be preferable.

[con20or]

Hopefully we can facilitate that, but it will be released through Matrix initially

[RebBugler]

i wouldnt dream of demanding anything by way of distribution. but if you can give the customer a choice i.e steam or not steam,that would be preferable.

Thank You Sir!

For those that are demanding that SOWWL be released via Steam aren't thinking through this. Why would Matrix Games share their profits off SOWWL sales when the game is selling well already through Matrix? Of course, we at NSD are also hoping for this, the success of the game that is, and thus keeping a better profit margin for us also.

Sure, it's better to offer the customer more options for purchase, and this is the plan, EVENTUALLY, with Steam being the first 3rd party option.

Personally, Steam would never be an option of purchase for me. I live in backwoods Arkansas, and although I do have a DSL connection, it tends to be slow and shaky much of the time. Like many rural folks, Steam gaming is prohibitive because it's downright useless. And like someone mentioned already, NSD strives to handle mods and mod distribution 'in-house', we don't even rely on 3rd party solutions which I understand to be buggy at best.

Bottom line, Matrix Games is our distributor, we are in their family, and all decisions of distribution rest completely with them.

[Gunfreak]

Any profits steam takes is easly made back but letting millions of potential customers see the game they would never see otherwise. There is a reason tiny indy devs, one man games, work very very hard to get their game on steam.

Also many od the youtube reviewers( some with sevral million viewers i might add), almost never review indy games not on steam.

Angry joe got like 2 million subscriber. And he has said many times he loves 18/19th century warfare. I gad posted on his forum about this game, if he sees that post i do not know. But i think chances of him reviewing the game is much higher if the game is on steam.

Have no idea how big matrix customer pool is. Maybe they feel its big enough to make enough money with out steam.

But it will probebly never be a run away success that the game deserves unless it's on steam.

And I've never said steam only. I will by the game no mater what, this is simply me wanting the game to be a big success.

[Destraex]

Nobody said steam only.

And yes, steam now has workshop, modders upload their mods to steam, you just click one button and the mod is downloaded and installed right away not only that, but any update to the mod is automatically downloaded and installed. So i would say steam would be great help to this game.

The workshop is unbelievably bad though.

It's hands down one of the worst mod managers I've encountered. And I used SIX Updater for crying out loud.

Hell, JSGME is the superior choice all of the time.

I don't much care if there is a Steam version but I won't be using it.

mods even work on steam without the workshop. That's no problem either. But I have had no problems with it for new maps and mods for total war and company of heroes I have used it for.