colors of the uniform

[oetjoel]

is it just me or does colors of the uniform in this game are to bright?
for example, the blue of the french army should be like this:

[Gunfreak]

is it just me or does colors of the uniform in this game are to bright?
for example, the blue of the french army should be like this:

Actually it would have been even darker, new french uniforms would look almost black.

But would fade very fast in rain, sun and snow. If they had used the new unifom color in the game, the french would look black and white not blue and white. Same with prussias, black and grey not blue and grey. And that would be boring.

[tim]

When I researched the uniforms you would often get a whole range of colours. I tended to use this website http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/ along with plenty of google searches and a number of books I have at home. I tried to get a middle ground on colour - not too dark, not too bright but also showing the colour of the uniforms of the period. I also went for a campaign(ish) look so shako covers, no plumes, cavalry in overalls.

[IronBMike]

I prefer the more vibrant look. Brings the game to life.

[Destraex]

I prefer bright to dull. Easier to spot.

[Saddletank]

The flags let you spot who is who, not the uniforms.

I don't really WANT to add to my other comments that have been less than supportive but I find the sprite shapes to be the best yet - you can easily forget you are looking at 2D animations and not 3D models when viewing them. The 'shape' is excellent.

But, yeah... there are some colour interpretations that are not right. The bright blue of the French is apparent - it should be a much deeper blacker blue - an indigo. Remember these French uniforms were almost all new. If Napoleon's administration from April hadn't produced them, then Louis XVIII's over the winter of 1814/15 had, so the faded cloth argument does not apply.

The Prussians are a bothersome purple shade. I have no idea why this colour was chosen. It's clearly not correct. The Prussian army is also too uniform. It was by far the most heterogeneous and ragged of all the 1815 armies. Peter Hofschroer's two recent books give all the reasons why.

I saw a Prussian Hussar regiment depicted as Uhlans in an MP game last night. I think it was the 11th Hussars. NSD has produced Prussian hussar sprites, yes? Why use Uhlans for Hussars? I know some Uhlan regiments did not receive their lances and so could be represented by Hussar sprites, but not the other way around.

Sadly the French guard is just... bad. In every way. The Old and Middle guard bearskins are entirely the wrong shape and their greatcoats are the wrong colour and shape. There are accounts of the Old Guard wearing bonnets de police in this campaign and not bearskins. The Empress dragoon sprites are really crude and pixellated vs the other troops. The Chasseurs a Cheval seem to be wearing a chasseur uniform of the line and not the guard. Guard artillery have the wrong uniforms. Given how much interest the French guard is going to attract among informed gamers in this game, there is a lot that is incorrect.

Lastly the animations. Why do the troops scamper about like people in old pre-WWI films? The animations are too rapid. Halve the animation speed and it will look so much better.

[gunship24]

Tim has done a great job pushing the boundaries of the uniforms not only in amount but in variations. I dont know the stats but this is the most rich uniform game to date, and for those who know the period you will know why! The uniform mod ability is a great addition to Waterloo, and a must have, allowing us to depict entirely different units using the smallest memory space possible, allowing even more uniforms for you guys.

Feedback on uniforms always welcome, there are so many and different sources say different things.

The Prussian hussars maybe an OOB issue, i'll look at it.

[Gunfreak]

The flags let you spot who is who, not the uniforms.

I don't really WANT to add to my other comments that have been less than supportive but I find the sprite shapes to be the best yet - you can easily forget you are looking at 2D animations and not 3D models when viewing them. The 'shape' is excellent.

But, yeah... there are some colour interpretations that are not right. The bright blue of the French is apparent - it should be a much deeper blacker blue - an indigo. Remember these French uniforms were almost all new. If Napoleon's administration from April hadn't produced them, then Louis XVIII's over the winter of 1814/15 had, so the faded cloth argument does not apply.

The Prussians are a bothersome purple shade. I have no idea why this colour was chosen. It's clearly not correct. The Prussian army is also too uniform. It was by far the most heterogeneous and ragged of all the 1815 armies. Peter Hofschroer's two recent books give all the reasons why.

I saw a Prussian Hussar regiment depicted as Uhlans in an MP game last night. I think it was the 11th Hussars. NSD has produced Prussian hussar sprites, yes? Why use Uhlans for Hussars? I know some Uhlan regiments did not receive their lances and so could be represented by Hussar sprites, but not the other way around.

Sadly the French guard is just... bad. In every way. The Old and Middle guard bearskins are entirely the wrong shape and their greatcoats are the wrong colour and shape. There are accounts of the Old Guard wearing bonnets de police in this campaign and not bearskins. The Empress dragoon sprites are really crude and pixellated vs the other troops. The Chasseurs a Cheval seem to be wearing a chasseur uniform of the line and not the guard. Guard artillery have the wrong uniforms. Given how much interest the French guard is going to attract among informed gamers in this game, there is a lot that is incorrect.

Lastly the animations. Why do the troops scamper about like people in old pre-WWI films? The animations are too rapid. Halve the animation speed and it will look so much better.

Actually it does, it only takes a few days to weeks to fade the uniform properly even outside hard campaigning. The uniforms from the first restoration would probebly be much lighter than the uniforms just weeks newer made after the return of napoleon.

[KG_Soldier]

There's a major flaw in this game.

I put my nose to the screen and couldn't smell any of the French funk.

These guys should really reek of body odor. I'm not playing anymore until you guys put in the proper B.O.!

[AP514]

LOL......KG you slay me.....