Where and when did Lincoln say......

[Ephrum]

I remember this quote of Pres. Lincoln in the Ken Burns "Civil War" documentary.....

" Both sides claim God is on their side. But one side must be wrong...God can't be for, and against, the same thing at the same time."

Does anyone here know in what speech he said that? Or maybe know of a specific book in which that quote is mentioned?

[Kerflumoxed]

Ephrum wrote:

I remember this quote of Pres. Lincoln in the Ken Burns "Civil War" documentary.....

" Both sides claim God is on their side. But one side must be wrong...God can't be for, and against, the same thing at the same time."

Does anyone here know in what speech he said that? Or maybe know of a specific book in which that quote is mentioned?

Abraham Lincoln, memorandum dated September 30, 1862

J

[Ephrum]

Many thanks to you Kerflumoxed!

And I'm not at all surprised that you would know, nor in the speed of your reply! B)

Very kind of you Sir!

[8th Alabama]

Matter of minutes for that reply, we should start an "Ask Kerflumoxed" section, I hear
tale that it takes 20 teams plus ten spares to carry Kerflumoxed brains around. :laugh:

[Kerflumoxed]

Ephrum wrote:

Many thanks to you Kerflumoxed!

And I'm not at all surprised that you would know, nor in the speed of your reply! B)

Very kind of you Sir!

Most welcome...and written 8 days after the Emancipation Proclamation.

J

[Kerflumoxed]

8th Alabama wrote:

Matter of minutes for that reply, we should start an "Ask Kerflumoxed" section, I hear
tale that it takes 20 teams plus ten spares to carry Kerflumoxed brains around. :laugh:

Eighth Alabama...I suspect you are a member of Company I, the Emerald Guards (and probably not Company G, the German Fusileers)! Nice flag..."Clear the Way" if my Gaelic is correct.

J

[Armchair General]

Kerflumoxed wrote:

8th Alabama wrote:

Matter of minutes for that reply, we should start an "Ask Kerflumoxed" section, I hear
tale that it takes 20 teams plus ten spares to carry Kerflumoxed brains around. :laugh:

Eighth Alabama...I suspect you are a member of Company I, the Emerald Guards (and probably not Company G, the German Fusileers)! Nice flag..."Clear the Way" if my Gaelic is correct.

J

The bottom of the flag says "Clear the Way," yes. The top says, "Ireland Forever." It's ironic that Clear the Way was used by a Confederate Irish regiment but was also the battle cry of the Union Irish Brigade.

[Kerflumoxed]

Armchair General wrote:

Kerflumoxed wrote:

8th Alabama wrote:

Matter of minutes for that reply, we should start an "Ask Kerflumoxed" section, I hear
tale that it takes 20 teams plus ten spares to carry Kerflumoxed brains around. :laugh:

Eighth Alabama...I suspect you are a member of Company I, the Emerald Guards (and probably not Company G, the German Fusileers)! Nice flag..."Clear the Way" if my Gaelic is correct.

J

The bottom of the flag says "Clear the Way," yes. The top says, "Ireland Forever." It's ironic that Clear the Way was used by a Confederate Irish regiment but was also the battle cry of the Union Irish Brigade.

Yes, it does mean "Ireland Forever"...probably an the most Irish sayings understood by all. Thanks for reminding me.

Incidentally, Faugh a Ballagh (also written Faugh-a-ballagh or Faugh an Beallach) was first used as a regimental motto by the Royal Irish Fusiliers in 1798 which also was the year of the United Irishmen Rebellion (Rising of '98) which was commemorated in a tune titled "Rising of the Moon" made famous in the US by Tommy Makem & the Clancy Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwHm18K3kjs). My personal favorite from that "rising" is "Young Roddy McCorley." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwHm18K3kjs)

J

[Armchair General]

Kerflumoxed wrote:

Armchair General wrote:

Kerflumoxed wrote:

8th Alabama wrote: Eighth Alabama...I suspect you are a member of Company I, the Emerald Guards (and probably not Company G, the German Fusileers)! Nice flag..."Clear the Way" if my Gaelic is correct.

J

The bottom of the flag says "Clear the Way," yes. The top says, "Ireland Forever." It's ironic that Clear the Way was used by a Confederate Irish regiment but was also the battle cry of the Union Irish Brigade.

Yes, it does mean "Ireland Forever"...probably an the most Irish sayings understood by all. Thanks for reminding me.

Incidentally, Faugh a Ballagh (also written Faugh-a-ballagh or Faugh an Beallach) was first used as a regimental motto by the Royal Irish Fusiliers in 1798 which also was the year of the United Irishmen Rebellion (Rising of '98) which was commemorated in a tune titled "Rising of the Moon" made famous in the US by Tommy Makem & the Clancy Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwHm18K3kjs). My personal favorite from that "rising" is "Young Roddy McCorley." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwHm18K3kjs)



J

I'll take The Minstrel Boy, written by Thomas Moore to commemorate the loss of his friends.

[Ephrum]

8th Alabama wrote:

Matter of minutes for that reply, we should start an "Ask Kerflumoxed" section, I hear
tale that it takes 20 teams plus ten spares to carry Kerflumoxed brains around. :laugh:

I thought about just writing "Hey Kerflumoxed", in the Subject title!





Speaking of....Hey Kerflumoxed, would you know of a specific book in which the Lincoln quote is mentioned? I've looked in the books I have, and even tried cross-referencing the quote on the internet, but so far, no luck.

The reason I ask, is because I'm writing a book review for history class and that quote would be a lovely touch in my closing paragraph, but my professor will want me to cite the source. And I'm not allowed to use the Ken Burns documentary as a source.


And I don't think listing the Forum as a source, will work for her either. :woohoo: