Position of Von Gilsa, Ames, and Artillery in Bullet Is Not Yet Molded Scenario

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Position of Von Gilsa, Ames, and Artillery in Bullet Is Not Yet Molded Scenario

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Hi there --

Should the brigades of Von Gilsa and Ames be positioned in the lower or upper fence-line during the scenario? Additionally, depending on the location of the aforementioned brigades, should the artillery that is with them be positioned at the top of crest or at some other location? Thanks.
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Re: Position of Von Gilsa, Ames, and Artillery in Bullet Is Not Yet Molded Scenario

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Hi there --

Should the brigades of Von Gilsa and Ames be positioned in the lower or upper fence-line during the scenario? Additionally, depending on the location of the aforementioned brigades, should the artillery that is with them be positioned at the top of crest or at some other location? Thanks.
I usually move the infantry up to the fences and/or the trees, anything to get the defense bonus. I usually place the artillery at crest of the hill near the OBJ.

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I move all my troops and artillery just below the knoll. When the Rebs come over the crest of the knoll, they get mowed down!
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I placed Ames and Von Gilsa at the top of the knoll, with Wilkinson's artillery in the center. I then positioned Amsberg's brigade on the left, and Krzyanowski on the right. The other brigades and artillery were ordered to the position using roads.

Two things I noticed:
1. Wilkinson's artillery spent more time moving around then firing.
2. Out of nowhere one of the regiments immediately to the left of Wilkinson's artillery was caught in a melee, and routed.

What am I missing here?
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1. Wilkinson's artillery spent more time moving around then firing.
It there's a lot of targets around they will do that.. But they should still be effective enough, especially in canister range.
2. Out of nowhere one of the regiments immediately to the left of Wilkinson's artillery was caught in a melee, and routed.
If an enemy regiment gets within a certain distance, they will automatically melee. They were probably routed because I'm sure they were used up and the attacking regiment was stronger with higher morale.

One thing to keep in mind with this one. Don't be afraid to retreat your whole corps, sometimes more than once. If the battle is not going in your favor, retreat back several hundred yards and find better ground. I've beaten this scenario before by playing it completely historic. I remember getting smeared by the rebels, retreating everyone to cemetery hill and getting my points there.
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1. Wilkinson's artillery spent more time moving around than firing.
Is it possible to have a fix to reduce the amount of movement of the guns as they are acquiring targets? It seems like sometimes they are all over the place. I can understand if a battery is getting flanked and a section has to reposition to meet that threat, but the guns shouldn't move much, if at all for game visuals, to acquire a new target that is close to its previous target. A certain amount of movement looks accurate and historic, but too much movement looks like the Keystone Kops Independent Battery M.

This is also true for infantry. I don't know what the game maximum oblique firing angle is for an infantry regiment firing at an enemy, but the regiment should be able to fire at up to at least 45 degrees before wheeling to reduce the angle. I know this has been mentioned in previous posts.

As always, comments are offered with the hope of optimizing what is already the best Civil War game I have ever played.
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I have run out of ideas on how to win at this scenario. No matter what I do, my forces get clobbered. I have taken people's advice on several strategies, and none have worked. These include positioning troops at the crest, as well as at the bottom of knoll by the fence line. One question came up: where is the victory location for Cemetery Hill? I do not see it appear on the map at any time. If I knew where it was, and when it is supposed to appear, I can then withdraw to it.

I need help on being able to win this scenario, because I am at a loss here.
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After 30 mins., check your mini map. So, hold on and get your points up until you lose the first VP, then retreat smartly and get uncontested VP points the rest of the way.:huh:
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1. Wilkinson's artillery spent more time moving around then firing.
I don't use it, but think there is a button that allows a battery/gun to chose a specific target. It didn't work so well in TC:SM, so it might have been removed.

But if it gets too unruly, you can always TC the guns at the heat of the battle. They won't change their facing and will fire at the closest enemy unit. I especially do this when two enemy units are equal distance from my guns---they'll just swerve back and forth never firing a shot. *BUT*, you have to be VERY careful not to forget about them or you'll likely be down six guns.
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Re: Position of Von Gilsa, Ames, and Artillery in Bullet Is Not Yet Molded Scenario

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I was able to achieve a minor victory, and withdraw the bulk of the command back to Cemetery Hill. I deployed two batteries on the left flank, along with Amsberg's brigade. I then deployed Krzyzanowski's brigade to the line of fences behind the crest which left Ames and Von Gilsa's brigade along with the artillery on the crest to face the Confederates. The remaining part of the corps I left on Cemetery Hill.

I am wondering if I could have achieved a major victory by keeping Krzyzanowski's brigade back, withdraw Amsberg's brigade after thirty minutes, and trying to extricate Barlow's division regiment by regiment. Anyone have thoughts on this?
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